. John Gwin and Jane Walker

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21.00--Richard Gwin, b. est. 1745 allegedly near Jamestown, Virginia, said to be of Scotch Irish descent; s/o unk. parents; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. est. 1765 also allegedly near Jamestown, to Sarah Chesley; one known son: Isham.

22.00--Isham/Isom Gwin, /pronounced EYE-sum, EYE-zum, EYE-jum, etc./, b. ca. 1770 perhaps near Jamestown; d. Dec. 1830 in Orange Co., IN; bd. unk. place in Orange Co., IN; m. ca. 1786 in Montgomery Co., VA, to Mary Canterbury (b. in VA, d/o M/M Canterbury; d. 18__ in Orange Co., IN; we once erroneously believed Mary to be a Ms. Cleveland); at least 10 children and likely 11:

23.01--Polly Gwin, b. ca. 1787; m. Thomas Walker, Jr., of Blount Co., TN; [JMG Note: Children's names are from Isham's will. Also, this Thomas Walker is the brother of my ggg-grandma Jane Walker Gwin; another Walker brother, Joseph, a Blount Co. justice of the peace, issued the marriage license and performed the ceremony of his sister Jane and John Gwin.]

23.02--Elizabeth Gwin, b. 1788; m. David Denton (b. 1778 in Hampshire Co., VA--now WV);

The two children in this box--William and John--do not show up in Isham's will. This once gave us reason to believe they were not his children after all. However, the seven-year gap between Elizabeth (above, b. 1788) and Virginia (below, b. 1795), coupled with Will's and John's dates of birth, a statement in a biography of one of Isham's grandchildren that Isham had TEN children, and growing amounts of other evidence, have given us sufficient reason to believe (though not prove) they are Isham's and Mary's children as well, and we present them here as such, yet with this disclaimer.

23.03--William Gwin, b. ca. 1790, probably in Crowson's Cove, Sevier Co., TN; d. unk. but after 1830 (in Alabama? Mississippi? Louisiana? Texas?); bd. unk.; m. bef. 26 Jun 1813 (probably in Blount Co. or Sevier Co., TN) to Susanah Beard; at least 11 ch. (in 1830 census of Dallas Co., AL); 23.04--John Gwin, b. 7 Nov 1792 (from his gravestone--see photo) in (then) NC--per his report to the 1850, 1860, and 1870 AL Census takers of Dallas Co.--probably in "Crowson's Cove on Walden's Creek"--today's Wear's Cove on Cove Creek--in Sevier Co.;d. 7 Mar 1877 at Wilsonville, AL; m. age 19.5 on 8 Apr 1812 (original document found in Blount County Courthouse, Maryville, TN--see box below) in Blount Co., TN, by Justice of the Peace Joseph Walker (Jane's brother) to Jane "Jennie" Walker (above), (b. ca. 1794; d. at Cahaba after 16 Feb 1864 [Dallas Co., AL, Book _, p. 740, records a deed from John and Jane Gwin where they sell on 16 Feb 1864 to Conrad Hilderbrandt the east half of Lot #7 in the town of Cahaba, thus proving that Jane Gwin was alive on that day.] and after the 1866 Alabama census, but before the 1870 federal census; bd. at New Cem., Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, beside their dau. Louisa A. Gwin McKnight--see note "I" below; d.o. Thomas Walker, Sr., and Elizabeth Magill, both of Virginia); nine children;

23.05--Virginia Jane Gwin, b. 1795; m1. (in Sevier Co., TN?) to Joseph Tipton; m2. (in IN) to Benjamin Weathers (his first wife was Ms. Bullington);

23.06--Isham Gwin II, b. 1797 in TN; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m1. according to county records, 1 Mar 1824 in Orange Co. to Betsy Snowden (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); m2. a Mary Likens (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

23.07--? Gwin, b. 1799, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

[JMG Note: COULD THIS BE CHESLEY? We have reason to believe that there was indeed a child of Isham and Mary named Chesley, named for Isham's mother's maiden name. When he was born or where he would have appeared in the birth order is beyond speculation at this point.]

23.08--Richard W. Gwin, b. ca. 1804 (age 76 in 1880 census) in TN; m. 10 or 12 (book is not clear if this is the application date or the wedding date) Apr 1824 in Harrison Co., IN (IN Bk. 2, pg. 72, says Doris Gyarmati) to Nancy Watkins (b. ca. 1807--age 73 in 1880 census--in KY; both parents b. in MD); livg. in Independence, Montgomery Co., KS, in 1880 census;

23.09--Nancy Gwin, b. 1805 in TN; d. in IL; bd. in IL; m. Squire Huston (b. in KY; d. in IL; bd. in IL); all ch. in IL

23.10--Sarah Gwin, b. 1806 in TN; d. in KY; bd. in KY; m. 10 or 12 (book is not clear if this is the application date or the wedding date) Apr 1824 in Harrison Co., IN (IN Bk. 2, pg. 72, says Doris Gyarmati) to J. E. (William?) Huston; 

23.11--Manerva Gwin, b. 1807 in TN; d. after 1850; bd. in IN; m. Elijah Wright;

[JMG Note: Elijah's name from Doris Gyarmati (see note in 1850 census chart below).]

23.12--Mahala Gwin, b. 1805 in TN; d. in IL; bd. in IL; m. John B. Huston (b. in KY; d. in IL; bd. in IL); several ch.

23.04--John Gwin, b. 7 Nov 1792 (from his gravestone--see photo) in (then) NC--per his report to the 1850, 1860, and 1870 AL Census takers of Dallas Co.--probably in "Crowson's Cove on Walden's Creek"--today's Wear's Cove on Cove Creek--in Sevier Co.; d. 7 Mar 1877 at Wilsonville, AL; m. age 19.5 on 8 Apr 1812 (original document found in Blount County Courthouse, Maryville, TN--see box below) in Blount Co., TN, by Justice of the Peace Joseph Walker (Jane's brother) to Jane "Jennie" Walker (right), (b. ca. 1794; d. at Cahaba after 16 Feb 1864 [Dallas Co., AL, Book _, p. 740, records a deed from John and Jane Gwin where they sell on 16 Feb 1864 to Conrad Hilderbrandt the east half of Lot #7 in the town of Cahaba, thus proving that Jane Gwin was alive on that day.] but before 1870 census; bd. at New Cem., Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, beside her dau. Louisa A. Gwin McKnight--see note "I" below; d.o. Thomas Walker, Sr., and Elizabeth Magill, both of Virginia); nine children; 24.01--Mary Gwin--b. ca.1813-1816 (33 in 1850 Census) d. unk.; m1. 27 Dec. 1838 to Drury H. Roark; m2. on 17 May 1849 to Mr. Abel Turner 24.02--Thomas Gwin--b. ca. 1814-1816; data unk. 24.03--Isom Gwin, b. 17 Mar 1817 in Dallas Co., AL Terr.; d. 7 Dec 1853; m. Mary Burdine Wilson; MBWG m2. 28 Jan 1859 to John Steadman 24.04--William Gwin  (18 Dec 1820--29 Apr 1889); m. 12 (13?) May 1842 Rosann "Roe" Carlisle Jones Wilson 24.05--Sarah Gwin, b. ca. 1826; d. 31 Mar 1885); m. 18 Mar 1841 to Louis Basset 24.06--Ann Gwin (ca. 1827--1845); m. 19 Jan 1843 to Joseph Lavalette Basset 24.07--Martha J. Gwin (ca.1828--unk).; m. 22 Apr 1847 to Jesse Comelander 24.08--Chesley R. Gwin; (ca.1828--after 1880); m1. 20 Mar 1850 Frances E. "Fannie" Bell; m2. a widow, Mrs. Blevins 24.09--Louisa A. Gwin; (ca. 1829-30--b. bef. 1830 census); m1?. Mr. Gaviness; m2. on 17 May 1849 Mr. Wm. G. (or J.) McKnight.

24.01 M A R Y G W I N AND m1 D R U R Y R O A R K m2 A B E L T U R N E R	24.01--Mary Gwin--b. 1817 in Dallas Co., AL (she is 33 in the 1850 census); d. unk., but prob. before 1860, since her daughter Anna Turner is living with her uncle and aunt then--(i.e., William and Louisa Gwin McKnight--see 24.09 below); m1. 27 Dec. 1838 (DCAMR, 1818-1918* also says 27 Dec 1838) in Dallas Co. (prob. Cahaba) to Drury Hampton Roark (b. 1812 in SC; d. 1846 in Dallas Co., AL; s/o Jesse Vaughn Roark and Nancy Ann Morris); one child;  m2. on 17 May 1849 in a double ceremony with sister Louisa by Rev. Cotten at (prob.) John's home to Abel Turner, the latter listed in the 1850 census at age 50 as a carpenter b. in NC and owning property valued at eight hundred dollars; also living in Turner's home in the 1850 census are his (second) wife Mary, 33; their daughter Anna, 4 mo.; and her son Walter J. Roark, 8. 25.01--Walter J. Roark; b. ca. 1842, Dallas Co., AL; age eight in the 1850 census and living with Abel and Mary (Roark, nee Gwin) Turner; but listed as age 15 in the 1860 Cahaba census and living with John and Jane in the Grice home then; enlisted in CSA 10 Apr 1861 at Cahaba, AL; was killed at the battle of Gettysburg 1 Jul 1863 at age 20 or 21; m2. on 17 May 1849 to Abel Turner 25.02--Anna Turner, b. ca. June/July 1850; in the 1860 census, she is age 10 and living with her uncle and aunt, Louisa and Will McKnight in Cahaba; in the 1870 census, she is age 19 and living with her uncle and aunt, William and Roe Gwin in Wilsonville; m. their son and her own first cousin, Rufus King Gwin; 3 ch.; [JMG NOTE:  Some of the info on Mary was provided me 3 Aug 2000 by Gene W. Rogers (grogers@mcia.com) who, with many others, is researching this Roark family.   And 13 Feb 2001, I found even more info at a new-found cousin's webpage, http://www.phaenom.com/roark/jesse.htm#top.
24.02 T H O M A S G W I N	24.02--Thomas Gwin--b. ca. 1814-1815 in Dallas Co., AL; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [JMG NOTE:  I had seen absolutely nothing on this son but his name, but he was in Uncle James' notes, so I included him.  And when I later saw John Gwin's family in the 1830 census, there were indeed four sons.  Accounting for the other three, that meant Thomas had to be born between 1814 and 1815.  Then I read a copy of a letter that Linda Derry, Archaeologist and Director at Old Cahawba, had written to my now-late cousin Roy Lester Smith, in which she said that a Thomas Gwin was mentioned (in a news article?) as having helped put out a fire in a lumber mill in Orrville, Dallas Co, in 1859.  If this is he, he'd likely have been in his mid 30's at the time.  Anyone know more about him?]
24.03 I S O M G W I N AND M A R Y  B. W I L S O N 24.03 I S O M G W I N AND M A R Y  B. W I L S O N 24.03 I S O M G W I N AND M A R Y  B. W I L S O N	24.03--Isom Gwin, b. 17 Mar 1817 in Dallas Co., AL territory (age 33 in 16 Nov, 1850 census of Pences or Athens Bt., Dallas Co., AL); d. 7 Dec 1853, age 36, only; served Dallas Co. for several years as Justice of the Peace; m.  Mary Burdine Wilson (sister of William's wife Roe, below) in Cahaba; [MBWG m2. 28 Jan 1859 to John Steadman according to LDS IGI file]; on 16 Nov 1850, Isham and Mary were living next door to Mary's parents, Nathaniel B. and Jane Wilson, and next door (on the other side) to Jesse Rasco, 38, of Kentucky, who was living alone; 2 ch.; Isom and Mary B. W. Gwin 25.01--Mary Jane Gwin, b. 31 Oct 1838 (age 12 in 16 Nov, 1850 census of Pences or Athens Bt., Dallas Co., AL, but age 24 in the 1860 census) date taken from gravestone; m.  22 Dec 1853 (according to LDS IGI file and gravestone) to William J. Smith (b. ca. 1833--age 27 in the 1860 census); d. 17 Jul 1871, age 32 years, 8 months, 17 days; bd. at Martins Station north of Co. Rd. 21 across from the Azion Baptist Church (and former site of the old Cahaba Episcopal church) less than a mile from Hwy. 22 south of Orrville in Dallas Co., AL; one child; William J., Mary Jane (nee Gwin), and Robert Isom Smith 25.02--Martha Rosanna "Mattie" Gwin, b. 5 Apr 1843 (but gravestone says 1844) in Dallas Co.; d. 15 Sep 1923 (but gravestone says 14 Sep) at age 80 of heart failure in Perry Co., AL, where she had lived 14 years (according to death certificate); bd. 16 Sep 1923 by J. A. Bice at Mars Hill Cem. near Marion, Perry Co., AL (gravestone is reported to say: "Lewis Independent Cavalry, from 1860 to 1865, CSA, 1833-1873"; lived and died at Perry Ridge community, Hamburg, AL, near Marion; an uncle was a Dr. [must be Isham Griffin] Wilson of Demopolis.  [John M. Gwin Note: My double-fourth cousin Barbara Ward, who descends from Martha and second husband Bryant, once thought that Martha was adopted.  Thanks to some of Barbara's excellent sleuthing, however, we're all now certain that Martha is the natural daughter of Isom and Mary.] MRGH m1. 7 Sep 1860 in Athens, AL, for 12+ years to Madison "Matt" Holley (b. 7 Aug 1827, d. 6 Dec. 1872, in Marion, Perry Co., AL; bd. Mars Hill Cem. near Marion, Perry Co., AL.; 10 ch. total: six children by Matt Holley, (only three--Minnie, Carlos, and Clarance--survived to the 1880 census) and four by B. B. Lester; MRGH m2. 6 Jan l881 (her age was 38, his 30) at the home of the bride in Perryridge, Perry Co., by Rev. A. J . Kynard, to Bryant Brown Lester, (b. 8 Mar 1851 at Perryridge, Perry Co., AL; s/o Thomas P. Lester and Sarah Ann Brown and brother of Mrs. Maggie Lester Henley who was living in Marion at the time of BBL's death, according to his obit. in the Selma Times Standard of Weds., 19 Jan 1941; d. 28 Jan 1941, age 89, at Hamburg, Perry Co., AL; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL; spent his entire life in Perry Co. as a farmer, according to his obit.); four children by Bryant Lester, 10 total; 16 Nov 1850 U.S. Census of Pences Beat, Dallas Co., AL Res./ Fam. Last Name First Name Age Sex Race Occupation Real Prop. Pers. Prop. POB JMGComments 736 / 736 Gwinn I. 33 M W Farmer $900 AL Isom (spelled this way because of the spelling on his and his daughter Mary Jane's tombstone--see below) Gwin Gwinn Mary B. 34 F W SC Mary Burdine Wilson Gwin, daughter of Nathaniel Burdine Wilson and Jane Jones, my ggg-grandparents, and sister of Roseanne Carlisle Jones Wilson, my gg-grandma. Gwinn Mary J. 12 F W AL Mary Jane Gwin, wife-to-be of William J. Smith; she is buried in the cemetery sw of Orrville across the road (Co. Rd. 21) from the old St. Luke's Episcopalean church that once stood in Cahaba; mother-to-be of Robert Isom Smith, her only child. Gwinn Martha R. 6 F W AL Martha Roseanne Gwin, who will marry first Madison "Matt" Holley and second Bryant Brown Lester.
24.04 W I L L I A M G W I N AND R O S E A N N C A R L I S L E J O N E S W I L S O N W I L L I A M G W I N AND R O S E A N N C A R L I S L E J O N E S W I L S O N	24.04--William Gwin  (middle name unk.)--My great-great grandpa!--b. 18 Dec 1820 at Cahaba, AL; d. 29 Apr 1889 at Wilsonville, AL, bd. there also; m. 12 May 1842 in Cahaba to Roseann Carlisle Jones "Roe" Wilson (b. 22 Aug. 1822, d. 29 Mar 1907 at Tampa, FL; bd. at Wilsonville, AL; Roe is the sister of Isham's wife Mary B., above, making all their descendants double cousins to each other);   according to Rev. Cotten's diary entries, William and Roe and his parents were very active in the founding of and service in the Methodist church in Cahaba; William and Roe and their family show up in Oakleyville, Bibb Co., AL, in the 1860 census, and Linda Derry's 1992 letter to Roy Smith says that she has "an advertisement of Oakley & Gwin's Lumber Mill on the Selma and Tennessee Railroad"; 8 known ch. [JMG NOTE:  Roe died in Tampa, FL, where she likely had been living at the home of her granddaughter, Mary Alice Lochridge and MAL's husband William Russell Ham--see notes on this family at my Lochridge page.] 25.01--Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin b. 23 April 1843; d. 23 Jan 1882; m. 25 Jan 1866, Dallas Co., AL, to Robert Guy Lochridge 25.02--Martha Jane Gwin (1845-1847); -- died as infant 25.03--William Sutton Gwin, b. 5 Jun 1848, at Cahaba, AL; d. 11 Sep 1916 at Wilsonville; m. 2 Dec 1868 to Ida E. Basset 25.04--John Wesley Gwin, D. O. b. 15 Mar 1851; d. 29 Aug. 1877, age 26; 25.05--Rufus King Gwin b. 16 May 1853; d. 20 Aug 1927; m. Ann Turner 25.06--Lucy Marcella Gwin b. 1 Dec 1855; d. 22 Feb 1871, age 16 25.07--Isham Griffin Gwin, Sr. b. 25 Sep 1858; d. 21 Dec 1919; m. 1881 to Mary Etta (Molly) Self 25.08--Thomas Wilson Gwin b. 10 Feb. 1863; d. 1877;
24.05 S A R A H G W I N L O U I S B A S S E T	24.05--Sarah Gwin b. ca. 1826--age 34 in 1860 Census--see record under Louis' name on Basset page; d. Tues., 31 Mar 1885 in Waco, TX, at her daughter Emma McCulloch's home); m. 18 Mar 1841 [date from LDS IGI file and Dallas Co. AL Marriage Records 1818-1918 (compiled by McLaughlin & Vintson)--that makes her m. at age 15 or so] to Louis Basset (b. 27 Feb 1814; d. unk.); 2 ch.; 25.01--Emma Basset, b. 3 Aug 1843 Tuscaloosaa, AL; m. 22 May 1867 Champe Carter McCullough (1841-1907); ten children;  [See all I have on this huge family at 24.05--Sarah Gwin's link.] 25.02--Ann Adelia Basset b. 1846, died young
24.06 M A R Y A N N G W I N J O S E P H B A S S E T	24.06--Maryann "Ann" Gwin b. ca. 1827 (source: process of elimination based on the ages of the nine children of John and Jane in the 1830 census); d. 1845; m. 19 Jan 1843 to Joseph Lavalette Basset;  (b. 25 Nov 1821 in England; d. 27 Aug 1865, age 43--killed by an exploding mill rock while running a sawmill in Wilsonville, AL); Joseph at age 28 in the 1850 census is now married to a second wife, Ms. Louisa [Catherine High Blann] Basset (b. 19 Oct 1827 in SC; d. 23 Jul 1897; bd. Live Oak Cem., Selma, Dallas Co., AL--Plot: LO 06 327E1/2 4--Find A Grave Memorial# 76995571); Ann and Joseph have one child; Louisa gives Joseph four more for a total of five for him; 25.01--Emily Basset, b. ca. 1844 (age 6 in 1850 census); d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
24.07 M A R T H A G W I N AND J E S S E C O M A L A N D E R	24.07--Martha J. (I?). Gwin, b. ca.1828 (age 22 on 7 Nov 1850 in census); d. unk.; m. 22 Apr 1847 (DCAMR, 1818-1918* concurs) in Dallas Co., AL, to Jesse Comelander, (spelled Comalander on Amanda's gravestone and in Cotten's diary, below) who was first married to Amanda J. Harris [b. 13 Sep 1824; d. 3 Jul 1846 according to her gravestone at the Old Cahaba Cem.]  on 26 Oct 1844 (this from the book of  DALLAS COUNTY, ALABAMA, MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE BOOK I: 1818 - 1845, pg 281); [JMG NOTE:  The existence of this seventh child of John and Jane Gwin came as a complete surprise to me, as Uncle James did not have any records of her.  Barbara Smith had sent the name with a summary of her late husband Roy's work on the family, the printout dated 18 Sep 1995; therefore, evidently Roy had known about Martha for some time.  But none of the documentation was included, so I had no idea whence it came.  The existence of Jesse Comelander was documented, however, appearing in the Wed., 12 Dec 1849 entry of Rev. Cotten's diary where he records, regarding one of the prisoners who was to be executed by hanging that day, that "His hands were bound behind him in an unfeeling manner by Jesse Comalander."  As this event occurred some two and a half years after the alleged marriage of Jesse and Martha, Cotten would have had no cause to mention as fact that Jesse was married to John Gwin's daughter Martha.  And now, 25 Oct 2001, I read in the 1850 Dallas Co. census that Jesse Comelander, age 46, a mechanic, and native of SC, did indeed reside at residence 560 (valued at 2800 dollars) with a woman, "Martha J.", age 22 of AL (young enough to be his daughter!) and five children: J.W., a male age 11; M. J., a female age 8; Elizabeth, age 6; G. P., a male age 3; and Jesse, a male age 1.  But she is John and Jane's daughter, and she is stepmom to at least two of the five children--and possibly twin sister to Chesley, also listed in the same census as age 22!] 25.01--J. W. Comelander, a stepson to Martha, b. ca. 1839 to Jesse and Amanda (age 11 in 1850 census); 25.02--M. J. Comelander, a stepdaughter to Martha, b. ca. 1842 to Jesse and Amanda (age 8 in 1850 census); 25.03--Elizabeth Comelander, a stepdaughter to Martha, b. ca. 1844 to Jesse and Amanda (age 6 in 1850 census); 25.04--G. P. Comelander, a stepson or son to Martha, b. ca. 1847 to Jesse and Amanda? (age 3 in 1850 census); 25.05--Jesse Comelander, a son to Martha, b. ca. 1849 (age 1 in 1850 census); 25.00--T. E. Comalander, b. unk.--no birth date listed on gravestone; d.28 Jun 1846, 5 days before the death of Jesse's first wife Amanda Harris Comalander; bd. in the Old Cahaba Cem., Cahaba, AL; this could be (but not necessarily is) Jesse's child, but not Martha's;  also bd. there are a woman likely to be Jesse's sister and a child, b. 5 days before the "sister" dies; therefore, she is likely the mother of this child. [John M. Gwin NOTE:  The LDS IGI file (of legendary inaccuracy!), while listing correctly our Martha J. Gwin marrying on 22 Apr 1847 in Dallas Co. to Jesse Comelander, ALSO LISTS a Martha J. Gwin marrying on 28 Oct 1847--only 6 months later--in Dallas Co. to a Mr. Richard West!]
24.08 C H E S L E Y G W I N AND m1  M. F. E. F A N N I E B E L L m2 P A R A L E E B L E V I N S 24.08 C H E S L E Y G W I N AND m1  M. F. E. F A N N I E B E L L m2 P A R A L E E B L E V I N S	24.08--Chesley ("Chess"--although Rev. Cotten consistently but mistakenly calls him Charley, according to the early transcriptions of his diary) R. Gwin; b. ca.1828 (age 22 on 7 Nov 1850 in census, but age 33 on 5 Jul 1860 census); m1. 20 Mar 1850 at Bogue Chitto, Dallas Co., AL, to Mary Frances Elizabeth "Fannie" Bell, (b. ca. 1830--listed on 7 Nov 1850 census as age 20--she and C.R. Gwin are the only two people living in the home of John and Jane Gwin in that census; listed on 7 Jul 1860 census as M. F. Gwin, age 29--could her full name have been Mary Frances Elizabeth Bell?); allegedly daughter of a "Hard-shell" Baptist preacher; raised a big family (and Alice Foster-Blevins' Rootsweb site states that two of these children were a son, Chesley, and a daughter, Fannie, although no other info is listed); 3 children listed on the 1860 census (see below); m2. a widow, Mrs. Paralee Blevins. 25.01--W. J. Gwin, a son, b. ca. 1852 (age 8 in the 1860 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; unk children; 25.02--J. J. (or I.I., J.I., or I.J.) Gwin, a son, b. ca. 1854 (age 6 in the 1860 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; unk children; [John M. Gwin Note:  a John Guin, b. 24 Dec 1853, d. 4 Oct 1907, bd. in the Bell Cem. just south of Browns in northwest Dallas Co., is listed in Vital Data from Cemeteries in Dallas County, Alabama, Central Alabama Genealogical Society, 1989; therefore, I speculate that one of the initials of this second child is "J" for this same John and that the other initial is "I" for "Isom".] 25.03--Mary Bell Gwin, b. 1 Mar 1856, according to headstone; d. 22 Jun 1857; bd. in the Bell family cem. nears Browns, Dallas Co., AL (see gravestone photos); 25.04--Enoch Gwin, b. ca. 1858 (age 2 in the 1860 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; unk children; 25.00?--C. J. Gwin, b. ca. 1866 (age 14 in 1880 census); d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; (unclear at this time if he is a son of Chesley's first wife, M. F. E. Bell, or his second, P. B.); unk. ch. CRG m2. a widow, Mrs. Paralee Blevins (nee unk.; b. ca. 1835?--age 45 in 1880 census; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m[1?]. to Mr. Blevins); [JMG NOTES:  In her 1992 letter to Roy L. Smith, Linda Derry said she had "some ads from the Dallas Gazette that mention the Wagonshop of William J. Smith and Chesley Gwin in Liberty Hill." And while the only Liberty Hill now in Alabama is in the northeast corner of the state, we now have proven that the Town of Athens was located for a time just west of Martins Station, the post office for which town was officially known as the Liberty Hill P. O.   The 1860 Census of Athens Beat, Liberty Hill Post Office, Dallas Co., AL, on 5 July lists C.R. Gwin, 33, wagonmaker, with real estate valued at $800 and personal property at $6425, b. in AL; wife M. F. Gwin, 29, b. in AL; and children W. J. Gwin, 8, male; J. J. Gwin, 6, male; and Enoch Gwin, 2, male, all b. in AL. The 1880 Census of Dallas Co., AL, lists C. R. Gwin, age 53, a white, married, male, living in Browns, AL, with his wife, P. B., age 45, and a son, C. J., age 14.  I believe this is Chesley R. for at least these 3 reasons: his age matches, his wife's middle initial B. could easily be for Blevins, and Browns is only about 9 miles nw of Bogue Chitto and less than a mile e. of Belvue where Chesley's grand-nephew James Basset Gwin (my grandfather!) was born  21 Apr 1872.  Mary Bell Guin, d.o. C.R. and M.E. Guin, listed as b. 1 Mar 1856 and d. 22 Jun (no yr) is bd. in the Bell Family Cem., e. of Rt. 5 on the county rd. at Weissinger Lakes, about 3 mi. s. of Browns, Dallas Co., AL. Chesley is the maiden name of the alleged wife, Sarah, of patriarch Richard Gwin.  Uncle James used this fact to reinforce the alleged reliability of the Richard Gwin story.  But Rev. Cotten calls him Charley more than once, with no mention of Chesley.  Was Cotten hard of hearing, misinterpreting Chesley for Charley?  Or could the full name have been Charles Chesley R. Gwin?  Could the transcriber have misread Charley for Chesley?  Charley, in Cotten's 22 March 1850 entry, was "getting married tonight to Miss Bell at Bogue Chitto".  A few months before my dad, Adrian S. Gwin, died, I asked him where Bogue Chitto is, and he said he guessed it was somewhere on Bogue Chitto Creek, which his family had to cross every time they went from McDowell to Selma and back--he said it's pronounced BOH-guh CHIT-uh Creek).  Sure enough, in January 2002, several miles west of Cahaba on County Road 180, I found this community and walked through the graveyard of one of the old churches there.]
24.09 L O U I S A   G W I N AND W I L L M C K N I G H T	24.09--Louisa A. Gwin; b. ca. 1832 (age 18 in Nov 1850 census); d. unk.; bd. at the New Cemetery, Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, in the Gwin plot beside her mother Jane--gravestone reads "In Memory of Louisa A. McKnight" (so it may have been placed there at a much later time than her death, though it looks to be similar to others located there); allegedly m1. Mr. Gaviness, prob. in Dallas Co.; m2. on 17 May 1849 in a double ceremony with sister Mary Gwin Roark (24.02 above) by Rev. Cotten at (prob.) John's home (it was not at the church, because Rev. Cotten's diary entry of that date states that he went from the wedding that night back to the church where he worked on his sermon) to William J. McKnight, (b. ca. 1829--the 1850 census lists him as a printer of age 21, owning property valued at seven hundred dollars, being a native of SC, and living at residence 599 with his wife, L.A., age 18; bd. in the New Cemetery, Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL--Find A Grave Memorial# 19541437, but his stone is uprooted, broken, and perhaps in the wrong place--when I was there Jan 2002 [and again in 2005 and 2008], it was lying inside the fence in the Ulmer plot, some fifty yards from the grave of his wife, Louisa, whose stone, as mentioned above, is located beside that of her mother, Jane Gwin; his stone reads, in part, "WM. McKNIGH..."). U. S. Census of Dallas Co., AL, Cahaba Town, 2 Aug 1860 Res./ Fam. Last name First name Age Sex Race Occupation Real Prop. Pers.  Prop. POB JMG Comments 575 / 567 McKnight W. I. (J.?)  42 M W Printer -- $600 SC I don't know why there is such a discrepancy between William's age here and in the 1850 census, above. McKnight Louisa 26 F W AL McKnight Elizabeth 13 F W AL I speculate that this is either William's daughter by an earlier marriage or his younger sister. Turner Anna 10 F W AL Somewhere between 1850 and 1860, Mary and Abel must have died. Brown Z. 21 M W GA

In July 2003, in the vertical files of the Record Archives in the basement of the Blount County Courthouse, Maryville, TN, and with the assistance of Archives Director Ms. Jackie Glenn, I saw, held, and photocopied the original marriage license for John Gwin and Jane Walker, a 6.5" x 8" document on heavy paper, transcribed here as follows: State of Tennessee }  To any regular Minister of the Gospel Blount County      }   having the Care of Souls or any justice of the peace for Said County, Greeting: By full power & authority In me vested I authorise and  Empower you or any of you to Celebrate & perform the rights (sic) of marriage between John Guinn (sic) & Jane Walker, he having given bond & Security as the Law Directs. Given under my hand at Office this 8th Day of April 1812 & 36 year of Our Independance(sic) J. Houston, clk By his Depty (sic) Wm. Lowry On the back of this document is evidence of where it was folded in half and in half again, both vertical folds, then in half a third time horizontally to make a package about 2" x 3.25"  and labeled on the outside: Licence John Guinn & Jane Walker * Apl 1812 Also on the back, legible after unfolding the last two folds, is the following undated statement in a different hand: The within named persons married by me Joseph Walker Justice of the Peace Later that same day, in the Blount Co. Public Library, I met Dr. Elmer Mize, retired Professor of History (Univ of Tenn., Knoxville), genealogist, and my fifth cousin through the Walkers (Jane's parents), and was told by him that the lack of a second date indicated that the marriage took place the same day the license was issued.

 

A photo of John's gravestone at the Wilsonville Cem., Shelby  Co., AL, was sent to me Sep 2001 by Mary Daniel (who married John's descendent) and reads as follows:  JOHN GWIN  DIED MAR. 7, 1877. AGED 84 YRS.  4 MOS.  She also sent photos of other Gwin tombstones there. Thank you, Mary, for sending all these photos!  And in January 2002 and again in July 2003, I got to visit the Wilsonville Cemetery myself and see these graves.  What a treat!  I also visited the cemeteries at Cahaba and saw John's wife Jane's grave, confirming that she died and was buried there.  Jane's marker reads, simply: IN MEMORY OF JANE GWIN Click here to see these and other Gwin family gravestone photos.

 

. Click here to see abstracts and transcriptions of some land deeds and other mortgages by Gwin family members. .s

Thanks to Ms. Linda Derry, Director and Resident Archaeologist for the Cahawba Project, we now have many transcribed pages of the diary of Rev. James Cotten, pastor of the church in Cahaba in which John and Jane Gwin and their son, William, and William's wife Roe, were very active. See the diary.

 

DATE	EVENT	SOURCE
1792
7 Nov 1792	John is born...	Tombstone
(same)	...somewhere in what is now East Tennessee but then was North Carolina (probably in the Wear Valley--aka Crowson's Cove--of Sevier County, TN) [Actually, Cousin Alice Foster-Blevins states that he was born "in the Carolinas," but John himself told every census taker from 1850 to 1870 that he was born in Tennessee, so I combined both pieces of info to arrive at this speculation.]; in July 2003 I found the 249-acre farm of John's father Isham Gwin in Sevier Co., Tennessee--the farm was surveyed and the deed granted in 1808, but Isham's family had been there prior to the survey, and I believe John was born there "in Crowson's Cove on the waters of Walden's Creek..."	Speculation, 1807 deed of  Isham Gwin
ca.1796-97	Jane is born in TN, [prob. Blount Co.]	1850 US Census*
1812
8 Apr 1812	John, 19, and Jane, 15, are married by Joseph Walker, J. P.,  in Blount Co., TN	County record; I've held this marriage license in my hand and have a copy of it as well.
1812-1814	John likely serves with a TN vol. unit in War of 1812, likely in AL against the Creek Nation [I base this on the fact that many if not most or even all of the able-bodied young men of the day were involved in this campaign, and also on the fact that though J & J were married in 1812, they didn't start having kids until two or three years later, probably because they were separated by his service.  Further, while at Horseshoe Bend Nat'l Monument, I saw the names of three John Gwins on rosters of Tennessee Volunteers for several units.]	Speculation (see bold italics)
ca. 1815-16	John, 23, and Jane, 19, move to Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, almost certainly with at least one brother, Wm. Gwin [Clearly J & J did move from TN to AL at this time, and I strongly believe (if not have proven) that the William Guinn who appears in Dallas Co. about the smae time as J & J likely traveled with them from TN.]	Speculation (see link)
ca. 1815-16	Probably first child, Mary, is born in [Dallas Co., AL] (age 33 in 1850 census) (John = age 25)	USCen.1830*
ca. 1815-16	Probably second child, Thomas, is born in Dallas Co., AL	USCen.1830*
1816	Cahaba area becomes one of first election precincts established	MOOC, Fry**
1817
17 Mar 1817	Isom, whom we believe to be their third child, is born in [prob. Shelby Co., AL] (age 37 at date of death, 7 Dec 1853) (John = age 24)	Gravestone; Obit., Dallas Gazette
1817	Alabama Territory is organized (John = age 25)	World Book
1818	Dallas Co. formed from Montgomery Co.	MOOC, Fry**
1819	Constitutional Convention meets in Huntsville, draws up Territory's first constitution	World Book
1819	Cahaba incorporates, lays out lots, selects sites to build government buildings	MOOC, Fry-p11**
14 Dec 1819	Alabama becomes 22nd State (John = age 27)	World Book
1820	Cahaba has 2 newspapers, a land office, State bank, stores, private boarding houses, hotels, etc.	MOOC, Fry-p13**
1820
8 Dec 1820	Fourth child, William, is born in Dallas Co., AL (John = age 28)	USCen.1850* and unk. birth record
1825	Rivers overflow, flood Cahaba (John = age 33)	MOOC, Fry**
Jan 1826	Capital is moved to Tuscaloosa, AL; Cahaba all but abandoned	MOOCFry-p14**
1826
ca. 1826	Fifth child, Sarah, is born in Dallas Co., AL (John = age 34)	USCen.1850*
ca. 1827	Sixth child, Mary Ann, is born in Dallas Co., AL (John = age 35)	USCen.1850*
ca. 1828	Seventh child, Martha J., is born in Dallas Co., AL (twin of Chess?) (John = age 36)	USCen.1850*
ca. 1828	Eighth child, Chesley R., is born in Dallas Co., AL (twin of Martha?) (John = age 36)	USCen.1850*
ca. 1832	Ninth child, Louisa A., is born in Dallas Co., AL (John = age 40)	USCen.1830*
1833	Fry's research uncovers this name in Cahaba among many others: John Guiwn (sic)	MOOCFry-p16**
1833	Second flood inundates Cahaba (John = age 41)	MOOCFry-p16**
1836
1836	Prosperity returns to Cahaba, remains until the end (late 1860s)	MOOCFry-p18**
1837	Son Isom and Mary Burdine Wilson are married.	gravestone in the cemetery across the road from former site of St. Luke's Episcopal Church at Martin's Station, Dallas Co., AL
Dec 1837	Work is authorized to be begun in early 1838 on the Cahaba and Marion RR (see 1859 entry, below).	Newspaper account of the meeting, held at Marion, Perry Co., AL
ca. 1838	Isom and Mary B give John and Jane a grandchild--Mary Jane Gwin is born (John = age 40).	1850 census of Dallas Co.
27 Dec 1838	Daughter Mary marries Drury H. Roark in Cahaba (John = age 46).	unk. record
18 Mar 1841	Daughter Sarah marries Louis Basset in Cahaba.	LDS IGI file
1842
12 May 1842	Son William marries Roseann "Roe" Carlisle Jones Wilson in Cahaba (John = age 49).  [Evidence suggests that Roe's father, Nathaniel Burdine Wilson (see Cotten Diary entry for 21 Jul 1850) and her uncle, Ezekiel Burdine Wilson,(see newspaper notice) were colonels in the Alabama militia, and that later William himself ad also attained that rank (see obituary for Thomas Wilson Gwin.]	Dallas Co. Marriage Record
ca. 1842	Mary & Drury give John & Jane grandchild #2--Walter Roark is born (age 8 in 1850 census)	USCen.1850*
19 Jan 1843	Daughter Mary Ann Gwin marries Joseph Lavalette Basset	LDS IGI file
3 Nov 1843	J & J's grandchild #3, Emily Ann Basset, is born to Ann and Joseph in Cahaba, AL; she will live to age 74 and die 12 Dec 1917 in Ennis TX	Cara Macon Hilliard
1846
ca. 1846	Son-in-law Drury Roark dies, Cahaba; daughter Mary is a widow ca. age 29 (John = age 54)	unk. record
22 Apr 1847	Dau. Martha J. m. widower Jesse Comelander (John = age 55)	unk. record
1849-1855	Six-year span of the entries I have from Rev. Cotten's diary (John = age 57-63)	Cotten diary
17 May 1849	Dau. Mary m2. to Abel Turner; dau. Louisa A. m2. William J. McKnight (John, 57)	Cotten diary
16 Oct 1849	John and Jane Gwin sold to their daughter-in-law R.C.J. Wilson Gwin's uncle, Ezekiel B. Wilson, for one thousand dollars, six lots of land in Cahaba numbered 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, and 222 (except approximately the eastern halves of lots 217 and 218) as recorded in the Dallas Co. Record Book N on pp. 195 and 196. Was this to have something extra to give to their daughter Louisa and her new husband, Wm. McKnight?	Dallas Co. Deed Record Book  N pp. 195 and 196.
20 Mar 1850	Son Chesley R. m. Frances E. "Fannie" Bell in Bogue Chitto (John = age 58)	Cotten diary
Summer 1850	Newlyweds Chess & Fannie in are living in John's and Jane's home in Cahaba	USCen.1850*
1853
7 Dec 1853	Son Isom, ca. age 37, Justice of Peace, dies in Dallas Co. (John = age 61)	Obit, Dallas Gazette
March 1855	Last entry I have from Cotten diary--John, 62; Jane, 58; & William are still living in Cahaba	Cotten diary
28 Jan 1859	Dau-in-law Mary Burdine Wilson Gwin (Isom's widow) m2. to the man who is probably her pastor, Rev. John Steadman	LDS IGI file
1859	Railroad is built from Cahaba to Marion (John = age 67) Perhaps this is the year it was completed; however, work was authorized in Dec 1837 to begin in Jan 1838 (see 1837 entry above)	MOOCFry-p67**
1860
24 Jul 1860	Son Wm. and family recorded in Oakleyville, Bibb Co., AL (John = age 68)	USCensus 1860
Summer 1860	John and Jane are living in Cahaba at the home of W.G. and Eliza Grice (reason unclear--perhaps Jane is ill; also living there are g'son J.W. Roark and step-g'daughter Elizabeth Comelander, each 15)	USCensus 1860
11 Jan 1861	Alabama secedes from the Union (John = age 69)	World Book
1 Jul 1863	Grandson Walter Roark is killed in Battle of Gettysburg, ca. age 21 (John = age 70)	MOOC, Fry**
13 Jan 1864	Granddaughter Emily Ann Basset marries G. Thomas Macon in Cahaba, moves to Texas	Cara Macon Hilliard
16 Feb 1864	John and Jane sell for $800 the east half of Lot Seven in Cahaba to Conrad Hildebrandt who had been residing there.  Was this to help pay for Emily's wedding, or perhaps to give them something for their wedding?	Dallas Co. Deed Record Book  T p. 740
1865
Spg 1865	Another big flood inundates Cahaba just before the surrender (John = age 72)	MOOCFry-p68**
9 Apr 1865	Lee surrenders to Grant at Appomattox (John = age 72)	World Book
1866	Courthouse is moved to Selma (John = age 73)	MOOCFry-p68**
1864-1870	Sometime in this decade, Jane dies, is bd. in the New Cemetery at Cahaba. Also bd. there are dau. Louisa and her husband William McKnight	I saw undated graves Jan 2002
1870
Feb 1870	John is living in Wilsonville at home of Will & Roe (John = age 77)	USCen.1870***
7 Apr 1877	John dies and is buried in Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL, age 84 yrs. and 4 mo.	Grave Photo
29 Apr 1889	William dies and is buried in Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL, age 68	Grave Photo
29 Mar 1907	William's widow Roe dies in Tampa, FL, is bd. in Wilsonville beside William	Grave Photo

* 1850 US Census, Cahaba Beat, Dallas Co., AL
* 1830 US Census, Cahaba Beat, Dallas Co., AL
**Fry, Anna M. Gayle;  Memories of Old Cahaba; Publishing House of the M.E. Church, South; Nashville; 1908
*** 1870 US Census, Cahaba Beat, Dallas Co., AL

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Red names in this  column are John's & Jane's immediate family. Black names are J&J's in-laws. Green are J&J's grandchildren. Purple are not reltated to J & J

Horizontal Time Line of John's and Jane's Families 1790    1800          ...MMMMMMM..........................................................................................................................mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm    1810  Blue exes indicate, generally, single years. Red exes indicate, generally, married years. Black exes indicate years where we are not fairly certain what was going on. Green exes are J & J's grandchildren.

______________ John________   Jane Walker_ Isom________   Mary Wilson___ __Mary Jane         (Jn.Steadman) Mary________   Drury Roark____ _ Walter  J.   Abel Turner____  __Anna_***_  Thomas______   UNKNOWN____ William______   Roe Wilson____  __MaryAnn Eliz.       Martha Jane        Wm. Sutton        John Wesley       Rufus King ***       Lucy Marcella       Isham Griffin       Tho. Wilson Sarah________   Louie Basset___  __Emma__      m.C.McCulloch  __Ann Adelia MaryAnn "Ann"_  Joseph Basset___ Martha_J.____   Jesse Comelander Chesley_R.___   Fannie Bell____   Paralee Blevins_ Louisa_A.____   Wm. McKnight_

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This was posted to the Guestbook for Primitive Baptist Research in Tennessee, Kentucky, and Indiana  at http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/Guestbook-KY-IN.html

Mon Apr 29 21:54:10 2002
Name: James T. Wall
Email: JAMESTWALL@aol.com
Comments:
I am descended from Isham Guinn/Isom Gwin who was a Baptist preacher at Tuckaleechee Cove, Blount Co., TN, about 1809 and at Sevier Co., TN, around 1810. He later was a Minister of the Gospel in Harrison and Crawford and Orange counties. He was preacher at El Bethel Baptist Church, Crawford Co., IN, until 1817 and at Providence Baptist Church in Crawford/Orange County, IN, until his death around 1830. He was listed in a book listing Baptist preachers, printed in Boston, MA, in 1811.

Isham Guinn served in the Montgomery Co. Militia, VA, in 1787. He m. ca. 1787 to Mary Canterberry, d/o Samuel.
I would like to know his parents and her mother.

James T. Wall
2511 N. Stuart St.
Arlington, VA 22207-5163
(703) 524-2198
E-mail JAMESTWALL@aol.com

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EFGH Civil War soldiers burials and queries
from:  http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/etoh.htm

    First Name: = Robert  A.
    Last Name: = Guinn
    U/C: = Confederate
    Rank: = 1st LT
    Unit: = 18th GA Infantry
    Cemetary Name: = East View
    Location: = Conyers, GA
    e-mail = ottis@cafes.net

    First Name: = Isham
    Last Name: = Guinn
    U/C: = Confederate
    Rank: = 3rd SGT
    Unit: = Co., I, 4th GA Reserves
    Cemetary Name: = East View
    Location: = Conyers, GA
    e-mail = ottis@cafes.net
    comments = Isham Guinn, was a guard at Andersonville.

    First Name: = Thomas
    Last Name: = Guinn
    U/C: = Confederate
    Rank: = 2nd LT
    Unit: = Co.,  A,  3rd GA Sharpshooters
    Cemetary Name: = City Cemetery
    Location: = Covington, GA
    e-mail = ottis@cafes.net

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Some Good Communication

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Hi John,

I am VERY interested in your Gwin family!

I have not been able to discover the first name of my Margaret Gwin's father, as he died before the 1790 census of Burke Co, NC, and his widow, Deborah Gwin, (unknown maiden name) is shown on that census. Margaret married Daniel England.

Daniel England died about 1815 in Burke Co, NC, and Margaret moved with some of her children to Habersham Co, GA, where she later died.  Margaret was said to have been born in NC.  I also don't know where her parents came to NC from.

Daniel's father William England had been in NC prior to the Rev. War, but I don't have proof where they came from either.  Daniel and Margaret did have a son named Richard, and I always wondered if that was perhaps Margaret's father's name.

The 1760 replacement census for VA shows David Gwin and George Gwin in Lunenburg Co, VA; David, Henry, John, Jos'h, Josiah and Thomas Gwin in Nansemond Co., VA; James and Elizabeth Gwinn in Prince William Co., VA, and a Hugh Gwynn in Stafford Co, VA; however, I think this book didn't cover all VA counties, and I have a 1740 book on order.

Library of VA shows the following at  http://www.lva.lib.va.us/dlp/index.htm:

 
GRANTEE Gwinn, Richard,  DATE 1 July 1780. NOTE Location: Pittsylvania County. NOTE Description: 3850 acres on both sides of Cherrystone Creek and Harpin Creek and adjoining Walton &c. NOTE Source: Land Office Grants A, 1779-1780 (v.1 & 2 p.1-685), p. 530 (Reel 42).

GRANTEE Gwyn, Richard DATE 15 June 1773. NOTE Location: Pittsylvania County. NOTE Description: 335 acres on two branches of Sandy Creek of Banister river adjoining Isham Kennen's land. NOTE Source: Land Office Patents No. 41, 1772-1773, p. 345 (Reel 40).

GRANTEE Gwyn, Richard DATE 25 June 1780. NOTE Location: Pittsylvania County. NOTE Description: 330 acres on the branches of Sandy Creek, adjoining Kennon and Kirby. NOTE Source: Land Office Grants A, 1779-1780 (v.1 & 2 p.1-685), p. 522 (Reel 42).

No Richards listed in the index to wills, but

Gwin, John   DATE 1753 SOURCE Deed Book 7, 1747-1755 (Reel 7) p. 471. Inv. & Appr. rec. 15 May 1753. NOTE Part of index to Princess Anne County Wills and Administrations (1691-1800), and

Gwin, John  DATE 1740 SOURCE Deed Book 5, 1735-1740 (Reel 5) p. 466. Accounts rec. 2 Apr. 1740. NOTE Part of index to Princess Anne County Wills and Administrations (1691-1800), and

Gwin, John  DATE 1728 SOURCE Deeds & Wills No. 4, 1724-1735 (Reel 4) p. 171. Will pro. 1 May 1728. NOTE Part of index to Princess Anne County Wills and Administrations (1691-1800), and

Gwin, Joseph  DATE 1777 SOURCE Chesterfield Order Book 6, p. 129. His orphan, Joseph Gwin, to be bound out by the Churchwardens of Dale Parish, 4 April 1777. NOTE Part of index to Chesterfield County Wills and Administrations (1754-1800)
and
Gwyn, Thomas  DATE 1788 SOURCE Will Book 1, 1784-1800 (Reel 19) p. 14a-15. Will pro. 25 Feb 1788. p. 18a-19a. Inv. & Appr. rec. 20 Jan 1789. NOTE Part of index to Norfolk Wills and Administrations (1784 - 1800)

Then in the  Virginial Genealogical Society Quarterly [Name/Series/Volume/Chapter/Section]

Richard Gwin XXIX 3 01-AUG-1991 Albemarle County, Virginia Court Orders, 1744/45 - 1748 June Term 1748 - August Term 1748

Richard Gwin XXX 3 01-AUG-1992 Virginia Land Patent Book 29   Albermarle Co, VA 1749 neighbor of Joseph Adcock

Richard Gwin XXXII 1 01-FEB-1994 Virginia Land Patent Book 32  Albermarle Co, VA  1754  neighbor of Col. John Bolling

Richard Gwin XXXII 2 01-MAY-1994 Virginia Land Patent Book 33    Albermarle Co, VA  1756  his own patent

Any connections?

Audrey Fett, AaronGFett@aol.com
Orlando, FL
26 Mar 2003

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Cahaba  Money

Here's a paper bank note for one "bit"--twelve and a half cents, an eighth of a dollar--issued by and payable at the Bank of the State of Alabama in Tuscaloosa and dated August 1842, only sixteen years after the state capital was moved there from Cahaba.

Cahaba was still a thriving town and the seat of Dallas County in the 1840's.  Many notes such as this must have passed through the hands of Cahaba's citizens in those days.  The eBay seller of this note said that the rarity of this note is now seven, meaning--if I understand the seller's note correctly--that only six others are known to still exist.