Rufus King Gwin
and
Anna Louisa Turner

Page Updated 5 Mar 2016
with more on the family of 27.05--Lillian Nobel Wilson

Page Updated 23 Oct 2014

Page Updated 27 Feb 2014
Page Updated 8 Aug 2011



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The updating of the numbering system used on this page has been completed. Generation 28 is my own;
27 is that of my parents; 29 is that of my children, etc.  --   John M. Gwin, May 2009

The reformatting of the name font and census data for this page has been completed. --John M. Gwin, Aug 2011

The Gwin families came from Wales, where the name means "white". All known spellings of Gwin are believed to be related, including Gwinn, Guyn, Guynn, Gwyn, and Gwynn. The first Gwins in America settled on the east coast in the 1740's in Virginia and migrated into Georgia and Alabama.


Sources:
1. My father's brother, James B. Gwin, Jr., collected a large amount of data from family members for some forty years--from the 1940's through the 1980's--and passed that data to me before he died.
2. The U. S. Census has provided much data as well, cited throughout, most of which I have accessed through Ancestry.com.
3.  Some data has been collected from various memorials on Findagrave.com, as posted there by such sleuths as Joan Mcdonald, and Donna McPherson, cited below--thank you, friends and cousins!


21.00--Richard Gwin; allegedly lived near Jamestown, Virginia, said to be of Scotch Irish descent; m. Sarah Chesley; one known son;

22.00--Isham Gwin m. Mary Canterbury; at least ten ch.

23.04--John Gwin, b. in east TN (then NC) 7 Nov 1792; d. 7 Mar 1877 at Wilsonville, Ala. (fr. records, p. 251 at Wilsonville Cem., Shelby Co., AL, and from his gravestone); m. 8 Apr 1812 in Blount Co., TN, by Joseph Walker (Jane's brother) to Jane Walker, d.o. Thomas Walker, Sr., and Elizabeth Magill, both of Virginia; Jane is buried in the cemetery at Cahaba, where she died before John moved to Wilsonville to live with their son William and William's wife Roe;  nine known children;

24.04--William Gwin  m. 12 May 1842 in Cahawba to Roseann "Roe" Carlisle Jones Wilson (sister of Isom's wife Mary B., above--Roe b. 22 Aug. 1822, d. 29 Mar 1907 at Tampa, Fla.; buried at Wilsonville, AL);   according to Rev. Cotten's diary entries, William and Roe and his parents were very active in the founding of and service in the Methodist church in Cahaba.


1870 Census of Shelby Co., AL
[NOTE:  Surname is Guinn on the census, but John's, William's,
and other Gwins' gravestones each clearly say GWIN in photos.]
NAME
AGE
SEX
OCCUPATION
POB
William Gwin
Rosanna Gwin
John W. Gwin
Rufus K. Gwin
Lucy M. Gwin
Isham G. Gwin
Thomas Gwin
John Gwin
Annie Turner *1
Texas A. Wilson *2
Henry Bassett *3
Mathew (?) Taylor *4
Annie Taylor *5
Robert Lochridge *6
Mary A. Lochridge *7
John Lochridge *8
Eliz. Laurince *9
49
48
18
16
14
12
9
77
19
14
13
36
9
36
26
1
25
M
F
M
M
F
M
M
M
F
F
M
F
F
M
F
M
F
Manufacturer-2000-3000
Keeping house
Sawyer
Works in saw mill
Attend school
Attend school
Attend school
Wheel (w)right
Attending school
Attending school
Works in saw mill
At home

Laborer
At home

School teacher

AL
AL
AL
AL
AL
AL
AL
TN
AL
AL
AL
SC
AL
MO
AL
AL
AL
*1 Annie Turner--We know that Rufus King Gwin (16 May 1853 - 20 Aug 1927) married an Ann Turner.  If this is the Annie Turner who is living at the William Gwin home in the 1870 census, then she is very likely the oldest child (excluding Walter Roark) of Rufus King's Aunt Mary--i.e., Mary Gwin, William's sister, widow of Drury Roark, and bride of second husband Mr. Turner on 17 May 1849--this date would make Mary Gwin Roark Turner's firstborn about 19 in the 1870 census, the exact age of the above Annie Turner.  It would also mean Rufus and Ann were first cousins. We know that Mary's first husband Drury Roark died when their only child, Walter, was just 3 or 4; we know Walter himself was killed at Gettysburg in 1863; and we know that Annie was living with Will and Roe in 1870.  Could Mr. Turner have also died and Mary just not been able to handle it?  Could Mary also have died, leaving Annie as an orphan?  Aha!  Today (25 Oct 2001) I see from the 1850 census that indeed, Mary and Abel Turner's daughter IS named Anna, who is listed as 4 months old on Nov. 7, 1850, when the census was taken!

The Eight Children of Will and Roe Gwin:

25.01--Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin m. Robert Guy Lochridge

25.02--Martha Jane Gwin (1845-1847); -- died as infant

25.03--William Sutton Gwin, J. P. m. Ida Eliza Basset 

[John M. Gwin Note:  William Sutton "Sutt" Gwin is my great-grandfather, which means that Rufus King Gwin, Sutt's brother, is my great-granduncle.  That makes his daughter Rosa my first cousin twice removed; her daughter Lillie is my second cousin once removed, and Lillie's two children, Walter III and Robert, are my third cousins.]

25.04--John Wesley Gwin, M. D., (1851-1877) age 26;

25.05--Rufus King Gwin m. Anna Louisa Turner  (YOU ARE HERE)

25.06--Lucy Marcella Gwin b. 1 Dec 1855; d. 22 Feb 1871, age 16

25.07--Isham Griffin Gwin, Sr. m. Mary Etta (Molly) Self (1858-1940)

25.08--Thomas Wilson Gwin b. 10 Feb. 1863; d. 1877;


Here's an outline showing what we know of
Rufus' and Anna's family:




25.05--Rufus King Gwin b. 16 May 1853 AL/AL/AL; d. 20 Aug 1927, age 74; bd. Woodlawn Cem., Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL--Find A Grave Memorial# 27231591; m. "at the residence of Mr. William Gwin, Wilsonville, 24 Dec 1873, by Rev. N. H. Self" (from The Shelby Guide, Columbiana, AL, Thursday, 1 Jan 1874) to Anna Louisa Turner--(b. ca. June-July 1850--age four months on 7 Nov. in the 1850 census and age 29 in 1880 Census; d. 13 Mar 1913; bd. Woodlawn Cem., Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL--Find A Grave Memorial# 27230817); 3 (4?) ch.
[listed as Rufus K. Gwinn, steam saw mill operator/owner, age 27, b. AL/AL/AL, in the 29 Jun 1880 Census of Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL];
[listed as Rufus Gwinn, saw mill sawyer, age 48, b. May 1852 in AL/AL/AL, m. 26 yrs., in the 29 Jun 1900 Census of Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL];
[listed as Rufus Gwinn, age 57, b. in AL/AL/AL, in the 29 Jun 1910 Census of Pct. 39, Hillsborough Co., FL];
[listed as Rufus K. Gwin, wid., house contractor, age 66, b. in AL/AL/AL, in the Jan 1920 Census of Twp. 39, Pct. 22, Hillsborough Co., FL];

[listed as Anna L. Gwinn, age 29, b. AL/AL/AL, in the 29 Jun 1880 Census of Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL];
[listed as Anna L. Gwinn, age 48, b. Feb 1852 in AL/GA/AL, m. 26 yrs. w/3 of 4 ch. lvg., in the 29 Jun 1900 Census of Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL];
[listed as Anna Gwinn, age 57, b. in AL/AL/AL, in the 29 Jun 1910 Census of Pct. 39, Hillsborough Co., FL];

[John M. Gwin Note: All evidence seems to point to this being the same Annie Turner who is living at the William Gwin home in the 1870 census, and if so, then she is very likely the oldest child (excluding Walter Roark) of Rufus King's Aunt Mary Turner--i.e., Mary Gwin, William's sister, widow of Drury Roark, and bride of second husband Mr. Abel Turner on 17 May 1849--this date would make Mary Gwin Roark Turner's firstborn about nineteen years old in the 1870 census, the exact age of Annie Turner.  It would also mean Rufus and Anna were first cousins.]

[Mark Hall Note: "His death notice was in the Tampa Tribune dated 31 August 1929.  His funeral notice was in the Tampa Tribune dated 02 September 1929."  And tonight, 12 Apr 2003, Mark sent me more, as follows:  "John, I found Rufus K. GWIN on the 1910 census of Hillsborough County, Florida.   He is in enumeration district 41, sheet 13-B, household 224, stamped page number 20-B.  The names listed are Rufus K., Anna, and Lillian GWINN.  Mark"]

26.01--Rose Anna Gwin, b. Jun 1875 in AL; d. 1938 in Palm Beach, FL; bd. unk.; m1. at age 15 on 30 Mar 1891 at First Presbyterian Ch., Tampa, FL, to Jacob J. Post (b. 17 Oct 1866; d. 4 Sep 1905, age 38; bd. Oaklawn Cem., Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL--Find A Grave Memorial# 35088603); m2. Emmett Wilson (b. ca. 1878 in MS; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least six ch.;
[listed as Rosannah Gwinn, age 5 in the 29 Jun 1880 Census of Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL];
[listed as Rose Post, age 25, b. Jan 1875 in AL/AL/TX, md. 9 yrs w/1 of 3 ch. lvg., in the 25 Jun 1900 census of Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL];
[listed as Rose Wilson, age 44, b. AL/AL/TX, in the 19 Jan 1920 census of 724 L. St., West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]
[listed as Rose Wilson, age 55, b. AL/AL/TX, in the 5 May 1930 census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]
[listed as Mrs. Rose Wilson, age 60, b. AL, in the 1935 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]

[listed as Jacob Post, mail carrier, age 32, b. Oct 1867 in FL/NY/GA, md. 9 yrs., in the 25 Jun 1900 census of Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL];
[listed as Jacob J. Post (Rosa), letter carrier, h 1809 Taliaferro, in the 1903 City Directory for Tampa, FL]
[listed as Emit Wilson, age 44, b. MS/MS/MS, in the 19 Jan 1920 census of 724 L. St., West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]
[listed as Emmet Wilson, age 53, b. MS/MS/MS, in the 5 May 1930 census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]
[listed as Emmet Wilson, salesman, age 58, b. 58, in the 1935 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]

see larger copy of marriage license at
 http://www.lib.usf.edu/ldsu/index2.html?f=search-full&id=1317&collectionid=H19


Florida Death Index, 1877-1998
Name:    Rosa Gwin Wilson
Gender:    Female
Race:    White
Death Date:    1938
Death Place:    Palm Beach, Florida, USA


[Mark Hall Note: I have some information about Rose Anna GWIN, d/o Rufus King GWIN and Anna TURNER. She m1. on 31 Mar 1891 in Hillsborough Co., FL, to Jacob J. POST (b. Oct 1867, 25 Jun 1900 census of Hillsborough Co., FL; d.  4 Sep 1905, age 38, in Hillsborough Co., FL; bd. Oaklawn Cem., Tampa, FL --http://www.tampagov.net/dept_Parks/cemetery/Engine.asp); 2 ch (4 total)]

 27.01--Walter Stanford Post, b. 15 Apr 1896; listed on the WW I Draft Registration for Palm Beach Co., FL; d. 29 Jan 1965, Pinellas Co., FL; bd. Arlington Natl. Cem., Arlington Co., VA--Plot: Sec: 43, Site: 3526--Inscrptn: SGT 1 CL DET MED DEPT BASE HOSP CP JACKSON SC MED DEPT USA--Find A Grave Memorial# 49300242; m1. unk.; div. 1935 (From Florida Dept. of Health--Divorce Index: [Vol. 61, Certificate No. 1028, Yr. 1935]); m2. unk. in Tampa in 1936 (From Florida Dept. of Health--Marriage Index, p. 722: [Vol. 349, Certificate No. 14696, Yr. 1936]); unk. ch.
[listed as Stanford Post, age 4, b. Apr 1896 in FL/FL/AL, in the 25 Jun 1900 census of Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL];
[age 14 in Apr 1910 census of Daytona, Volusia Co., FL)]

[listed as Stanford Post, Music director?, age 38, b. FL, in the 1935 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]

27.02--unk. Post, b. bef. 1900 census (Rose reports three births and one survival, Stanford, in the 1900 census--birth order not clear); d. as child or infant;

27.03--unk. Post, b. bef.1900 census (Rose reports three births and one survival, Stanford, in the 1900 census--birth order not clear); d. as child or infant;

27.04--Sylvanus K. Post, b. ca. 1902; d. 1950 in Palm Beach Co., FL.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

[age 8 in Apr 1910 census of Daytona, Volusia Co., FL]
[listed as Sylvanus Post, stepson, age 17, b. FL/FL/AL, in the 19 Jan 1920 census of 724 L. St., West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]
[listed as Sylvanus K. Post, boarder, age 28, b. in FL/FL/AL, in 3 Apr 1930 census of Precinct 4, Wash., DC; occ.: librarian "in a library"]
[listed as Sylvanus Post, librarian, age 32, b. FL, in the 1935 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]
[listed as Sylvanus K. Post, age 37, single, in 17 Apr 1940 census of West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and hosting his sister Lillian's family]
[listed as Sylvanus Post, librarian, HS educ., age 43, b. FL, in the 1945 Florida State census of Palm Beach Co., FL]


Excerpted from TIME Magazine, Letters, Oct. 28, 1935
"Dead Hog & Roast Pork"

Sirs:

. . . I am particularly annoyed by the manner you burlesque or satirize Roosevelt's speech [TIME, Oct. 7], apparently with the purpose of trying to make him appear slightly ridiculous. . . . You can make a person stand in a favorable light or unfavorable yet remain strictly within the truth.

I may say "I ate dead hog for dinner," or I can say "I ate roast pork." In both cases I would be correct. The President could get "scattered cheers," or he could get applause. Both are correct. But "scattered cheers" shows your bias in the matter. In another place, you use the words "My frien-n-nds," as though to deride the President's speech, when "My friends," would do just as well, and carry no sense of a jeer. You will say no such effect is intended, but I am the judge of the effect it produces, not you. . . .

You may as well understand that I am for Roosevelt, and I stick all the tighter to him when I discover that the Press is coloring the news against him, apparently for their own purposes. . . .

SYLVANUS K. POST
West Palm Beach, Fla.


+===+===+===+===+

Excerpted from TIME Magazine, Letters, Jan. 27, 1936
"Man of the Year"

Sirs:

Your presentment of facts is such that if I had known them in just that light, my vote, too, would have been for him [Haile Selassie]. . . .

The colored portrait on the cover goes into my scrapbook. I would have you understand that is a great honor. Only a few personalities retain a position there, and among those few are Roosevelt II and Einstein. . . .

SYLVANUS K. POST
West Palm Beach, Fla.



RAGP m2 ca. 1907 to Emmit Wilson (b. in MS on 31 Mar 1879; d. May 1963 in Palm Beach Co., FL; had a music store in West Palm Beach, FL; is listed on the WW I Draft Registration for Palm Beach Co.); moved to Volusia Co., FL and then to Palm Beach Co., FL. They were on the following censuses: 1910 Volusia Co., FL; 1920 Palm Beach Co., FL; 1930 Palm Beach Co., FL; 2 ch (6 total)

27.05--Lillian Noble "Lillie" Wilson, b. 13 Feb 1908 in Tampa, FL; d. 31 Jul 1996 in Palm Beach, FL, age 88; bd. unk.; m. Walter Van Buren "Pops" Wilson, Jr. (b. ca. 1903 in SC; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least two ch.
[age 2 in Apr 1910 census of Daytona, Volusia Co., FL]
[listed as Lillie Wilson, age 11, b. FL/MS/AL, in the 19 Jan 1920 census of 724 L. St., West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]
[listed as Mrs. Lillian Wilson, housewife, age 27, b. FL, in the 1935 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and evidently visiting with her parents]
[listed as Mrs. Lillian Wilson, housewife, age 27, b. FL, in the 1935 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/her husb. and 2 sons]
[listed as Lillian Wilson, age 32, in 17 Apr 1940 census of West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/her husb. and 2 ch. at home of her brother Sylvanus]
[listed as Lillian Wilson, housewife, age 37, b. FL, in the 1945 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/her husb. and 2 sons]

[listed as Walter Wilson, Jr., bookkeeper, age 30, b. SC, in the 1935 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/his wife and 2 sons]
[listed as Walter V. Wilson, accountant, age 37, in 17 Apr 1940 census of West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/his wife and 2 ch. at home of her brother Sylvanus]
[listed as W. V. Wilson, Jr., accountant, age 40, b. SC, in the 1945 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/his wife and 2 sons]


Photo of the Walter Van Buren WILSON FAMILY, 1952

       IDENTIFIED PERSON                               APPROX.     GWIN     RELATIONSHIP
                                                                                   AGE          GEN.#    TO ME, J.M.GWIN

Top Row:

Robert Wilson,                                             24         28.02     3rd cousin
Walter Van Buren Wilson II (pops),
           49         27.05     2ndcous 1r-i-l
Lillian Wilson,                                            
44         27.05     2ndcous 1 remv.
Walter Van Buren Wilson III (Bill's dad),    26        28.01     3rd cousin
    (holding son Bill Capers Wilson)             5          29.01    3rd cousin 1 remvd.
Clark Wilson,                                                        
Archie Wilson (pop's brother).                               
Sitting:
Margaret Wilson (Bob's 1st wife),               unk.      28.02    3rd cousin-in-law
    (holding son Robert Gregory Wilson)      2          29.01   
3rd cousin 1 remvd.
Walter Van Buren Wilson, Sr. (Pop's dad),                  
Edna Wilson (pop's sister),                                     
Mabbie Wilson (Pop's mother),                              
Richard Wilson (Emma and Archie's son),            
Emma Wilson (Archie's wife).                                



Soc. Sec. Applics. and Claims Index
Name:   Lillian Noble Wilson  [Lillian Wilson]
SSN:    261-78-1504
Gender:    Female
Race:    White
Birth Date:    13 Feb 1908
Birth Place:   Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL
Father Name:    Emmet Wilson
Mother Name:    Rose A Gwin
Death Date:    31 Jul 1996
Type of Claim:    Original SSN.
Notes:    Oct 1962: Name listed as LILLIAN NOBLE WILSON; 15 Aug 1996: Name listed as LILLIAN WILSON
Florida Death Index

Name: 
Lillian Noble Wilson
Race:    White
Age at Death:    88
Birth Date:    13 Feb 1908
Death Date:  31 Jul 1996
Death Place:  Palm Beach, FL

28.01--
Walter Van Buren "Bill" Wilson, III, b. 14 Apr 1926 in West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL; d. 18 May 1885
in West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, age 59; bd. unk., Find A Grave Memorial# 154431237; m. Alice Bernice "Bernie" Capers (b. 30 Mar 1928 in Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL; d. 27 Sep 2015 in Lake Worth, Palm Beach Co., FL, age 87; bd. Cremated, Ashes given to family or friend, Find A Grave Memorial# 154328966; m2. Omer Ferguson Divers, Jr. , facebook [PRIVATE]; m3. Mr. Irwin); at least two ch.
[listed as Walter Wilson, age 9, single, in the 1935 Florida State census of West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL]
[listed as Walter Wilson, age 14, single, in the 17 Apr 1940 census of West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/his parents and brother at home of his uncle Sylvanus]
[listed as W. V. Wilson, III, Air Corps, age 19, b. FL, in the 1945 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/parents and brother]
[John M. Gwin Note:  Mr. Omer Ferguson Divers, Jr., (Bernie Capers Wilson second husband, above) sent me the data listed below on 29.01--Bill (Debbie) Wilson and Bill's first cousin, 29.01--Robert Gregory Wilson, whom I have not yet located or contacted.  He also posted a 1952 group photo of Walter Van Buren Wilson, Sr., and his descendants.]
29.01--William Capers "Bill" Wilson, [PRIVATE]; m. Debbie (nee unk.)  [PRIVATE];
28.02--Robert Wilson, b. ca. 1928 in FL; d. aft. 1945; bd. unk.; m1. Margaret (nee unk.; b. ca. 1930; d. unk.; bd. unk.); m2. unk.; at least one ch.
[listed as Walter Wilson, age 7, single, in the 1935 Florida State census of West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL]
[listed as Robert Wilson,
age 12, single, in 17 Apr 1940 census of West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/his parents and brother at home of his uncle Sylvanus]
[listed as Robert Wilson, HS student, age 17, b. FL, in the 1945 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co., FL, and lvg. w/parents and brother]
29.01--Robert Gregory Wilson, [PRIVATE];
27.06--Rose Wilson, b. ca. 1912; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as Rose Wilson, age 7, b. FL/MS/AL, in the 19 Jan 1920 census of 724 L. St., West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]
[listed as Rose Wilson, age 17, b. FL/MS/AL, in the 5 May 1930 census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]
[listed as Rose Wilson, Stenographer/Bookkeeper, age 22, b. FL, in the 1935 Florida State census of Pct. 18, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach Co, FL]

26.02--Lula K. Gwin, b. ca. 1876 in AL; d. 27 Jan 1891, age 14; bd. Woodlawn Cem., Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL--Find A Grave Memorial# 27231425; m. prob. never; prob. no ch.;
[listed as Lula K. Gwinn, age 4 in the 29 Jun 1880 Census of Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL];

26.03--Lillian Nobel "Lilly" Gwin, b. ca. Jul 1878; d. 6 Nov 1967, age 88; bd. Woodlawn Cem., Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL--Find A Grave Memorial# 27231404; school principal; m. never; no known ch.;
[listed as Lilly A. Gwinn, age 2, in the 29 Jun 1880 Census of Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL];
[listed as Lillie Gwinn, school teacher, age 21, b. Jul 1878 in AL/AL/AL, in the 29 Jun 1900 Census of Tampa, Hillsborough Co., FL];
[listed as Lillian Gwinn, age 28, b. in AL/AL/AL, in the 29 Jun 1910 Census of Pct. 39, Hillsborough Co., FL];
[listed as Lillie N. Gwin, public school teacher, age 41, single, b. in AL/AL/AL, in the Jan 1920 Census of Twp. 39, Pct. 22, Hillsborough Co., FL];
[listed as Lillian Nobel Gwin, school principal w/B.S. degree, age 54, b. AL, in the 1935 Florida State census of Pct. 18, Hillsborough Co., FL]


[Mark Hall Note: Lillian Noble GWIN was enumerated on the 1935 & 1945 Hillsborough County, Florida state censuses. On the 1935 Hillsborough County, Precinct 18: go to image #6.  She lived at 2818 Nebraska Avenue in Tampa, her age is listed as 54, single, born in Alabama, she had a B. S. degree, and was a school principal. If you then go the 1945 census, she was in Hillsborough County, Precinct 28, image #1920. She still lived at 2818 Nebraska Avenue in Tampa, her age is listed as 55, college education and still a school principal, (she was 54 on the 1935 census & on the 1880 Shelby County AL census dated 29 JUN 1880 she is shown as 2 years old. I have her birth date as 15 JUL 1878 but on the social security death index it is 15 JUL 1880).]


[
John M. Gwin Note: The sources of Uncle James' records here are undocumented; nevertheless, he has Rufus and Anna having four daughters, not three (this concurs with Anna's 1900 census report that she bore four children, only three of whom lived to 1900).  The fourth may be this Nettie:]

26.04--Nettie Gwin, b. unk. in AL; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m1. Mr. Carey; div.; 1 ch. by Mr. Carey; m2. Mr. Clark; 1 dau.;

27.01--Carey

27.02--(daughter) Clark; m. Mr. Lovet;




Some Census Excerpts of Interest


from the 24 July 1860 Census of the
East Side of the Cahaba River, Bibb Co., AL

Name: Rufus K Guinn
[Rufus K Gwin] 
Age in 1860: 7
Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1860: East Side Cahaba River, Bibb, Alabama
Gender: Male
Post Office: Oakleyville
Household:
Name
Age John M. Gwin Comments
William Guinn M. Mechanic
39 These are my great-great-grandparents, William Gwin (son of John Gwin and Jane Walker) and RoseAnna Carlisle Jones "Roe" Wilson (daughter of Nathaniel Burdine Wilson and Jane Jones).  The Nathaniel Wilson, below, living with Will and Roe, is the right age to be her brother.  If this is he, however, who is the William J. Wilson listed just below him?
Rosanna Guinn
37
Mary A E Guinn
16 Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin would marry
William S Guinn
12 This is my great-grandfather, William Sutton "Sutt" Gwin, who eventually owned his father's steam mill and lumber company in Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL.  He also served many years there as Justice of the Peace.
John W Guinn
10 John Wesley Gwin became a doctor and died treating smallpox patients during an epidemic.
Rufus K Guinn
7 This is our Rufus King Gwin.
Lucy M Guinn
4 Lucy would die in a dozen more years and be buried in Wilsonville, AL.
Isham M Guinn
2
Nathaniel Wilson farmer
22 This has to be Roe's younger brother, Nathaniel Marion Wilson, b. 3 Nov 1837.
William J Wilson farmer 19
Green Campbell farmer 18

From the 1935 Florida State Census of Palm Beach County
Name
Address
Inside or outside
City Limits
Sex
Age
Race
Relat.
to Fam.
POB
Degree
of Educ.
Owner/
Renter
Occupation
John M. Gwin Comments
Emmet Wilson
620 Lylte St.
city
m
58
w
husband
MS
gram. sch.
rent
salesman
Mark Hall found this census posted on FamilySearch.org and sent me directions for finding it (see his email at bottom of page).
Mrs. Rose Wilson
620 Lylte St. city f
60
w
wife
AL
gram. sch.
house wife
Mark says that Rose Anna Wilson died in 1938, so only three years after this census was taken.
Mrs. Lillian Wilson
620 Lylte St. city f
27
w
daughter
FL
high sch.

house wife

Rose Wilson
620 Lylte St. city f
22
w
daughter
FL
high sch.
(Strig Book K.?)

Stanford Post
620 Lylte St. city m
38
w
son
FL
high sch.
(mail order?)

Sylvanus Post
620 Lylte St. city m
32
w
son
FL
high sch.
(librarian?)






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Timeline for
Rufus King Gwin and Anna Turner
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Event
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ca. 1812-1816 Wm's brother, Thomas, is born in Dallas Co., AL USCen.1830*
ca. 1812-1816 Wm's. sister, Mary, is born in [Dallas Co., AL] (age 33 in 1850 census) (John = age 25) USCensus1850*
29 Nov 1816 Roe's sister, Mary Burdine Wilson, is born, prob. in SC (she later marries Wm's. bro. Isom) unk. record
17 Mar 1817 Wm's brother, Isom, is born in [Dallas Co., AL] (age 37 at date of death, 7 Dec 1853--Obit, Dallas Gazette) tombstone
1817 Alabama Territory is organized (John = age 25) World Book



2 Feb 1819 Roe's brother, John Jones Wilson, is born, prob. in SC unk. record
1818 Dallas Co. formed from Montgomery Co. MOOC, Fry**
1819 Constitutional Convention meets in Huntsville, draws up Territory's first constitution  WorldBook
1819 Cahaba incorporates, lays out lots, selects sites to build gov. buildings MOOCFry-p11**
14 Dec 1919 Alabama becomes 22nd State (John = age 27) WorldBook
1820 Cahaba has 2 newspapers, a land office, State bank, stores, private boarding houses, hotels, etc. MOOCFry-p13**



1819-1820 Nathaniel and Jane Jones Wilson are in Limestone Co., AL for the census USCen.1820
18 Dec 1820 William, fourth child of John and Jane Gwin, is born in Dallas Co., AL (John = age 28) USCen.1850*
 23 June 1821 Roe's brother, William Wilson, whom she never knows, is born & bd. somewhere  in AL unk. record
22 Aug 1822 Roseann C. J. "Roe" Wilson, 4th child of N.B. & Jane Wilson, born in AL (Wm.=age 1.7) unk. record
23 Feb 1825 Roe's brother, Ezekiel Monroe Wilson, is born (Roe = age 2.5) unk. record
1825 Rivers overflow, flood Cahaba (Wm. = age 4, Roe = age 2-3) MOOC, Fry**
Jan 1826 Capital is moved to Tuscaloosa, AL; Cahaba all but abandoned MOOCFry-p14**



ca. 1826 Wm's. sister, Sarah, is born in Dallas Co., AL (Wm. = age 3-4) USCen.1850*
ca. 1827 Wm's. sister, Mary Ann, is born in Dallas Co., AL (Wm. = age 4-5) USCen.1850*
21 Sep 1827 Roe's brother,William Bramwell Wilson, is born  (Roe = age 5) unk. record
ca. 1828 Wm's. sister, Martha J., is born in Dallas Co., AL (twin of Chess?) (Wm. = age 5-6) USCen.1850*
ca. 1828 Wm's brother, Chesley R., is born in Dallas Co., AL (twin of Martha?) (Wm. = age 5-6) USCen.1850*
7 Jul 1830 Roe's bro., Jos. J. A. Wilson, born (Roe=age 8)--(He later becomes father of Texas Wilson) unk. record
ca. 1832 Wm's. sister, Louisa A., is born in Dallas Co., AL (Wm. = age 9-10) USCen.1830*
1833 Second flood inundates Cahaba (Wm. = age 11) MOOCFry-p16**



1836 Prosperity returns to Cahaba, remains until the end (late 1860s) MOOCFry-p18**
ca. 1836-38 Isom Gwin and Mary B. Wilson are married in Dallas Co. (WmRoe = age 15-17/13-16) unk. record
ca. 1838 Isom and Mary B give John, Jane, Nate, & Jane g'child #1--Mary J. (WmRoe = age 16/14) unk. record
27 Dec 1838 Wm's. sister Mary marries Drury H. Roark in Cahaba (WmRoe = age 18/16) unk. record
12 May 1842 William marries Roseann C.J. Wilson in Cahaba (WmRoe = age 21/19) DalCoMarrRec
ca. 1842 Wm's. sister Mary & Drury give John & Jane g'child #2--Walter Roark (age 8 in 1850 census) USCen.1850*
23 April 1843 WmRoe, age 22/20,  give John & Jane g'child #3 Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin, King's big sister unk. record



1845 WmRoe, age 24/22,  give John & Jane g'child #4 Martha Jane Gwin, King's sister he never knew unk. record
ca. 1846 Wm's brother-in-law Drury Roark dies, Cahaba (WmRoe = age 25/24) unk. record
1847 WmRoe's dau. Martha Jane Gwin dies as infant (WmRoe = age 26/24), King's sis he never knew unk. record
22 Apr 1847 Wm's. sister Martha J. m. Jesse Comelander (WmRoe = age 26/24) unk. record
5 Jun 1848 WmRoe, age 25/23, give John & Jane g'child #5, William Sutton Gwin --my great-grandfather, and King's big brother (5 years older) unk. record



1849-1855 Six-year span of the entries I have from Rev. Cotten's diary (WmRoe = age 28-35/27-34) Cotten diary



17 May 1849 Wm's. sis' Mary m2.to Abel Turner; & Louisa A. m2.Wm.G.McKnight (WmRoe=28/26) Cotten diary
20 Mar 1850 Wm's brother Chesley R. m. Frances E. "Fannie" Bell in Bogue Chitto (WmRoe=29/27) Cotten diary
ca. 1850 Annie Louisa Turnerb. to Wm's. sis Mary &Abel Turner (Anna will m.Wm's.son King)  1870 USCensus



1850 WmRoe have living with them in Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL: Eliz. (7), Wm.S. (2), Joseph (J. A.) Wilson (Roe's bro., 20, carpenter) and Charles Farr (18, carpenter), latter 2 working for William. 1850 Census*
15 Mar 1851 WmRoe's son John Wesley Gwin is born, Dallas Co. (WmRoe = age 30/28) Tombstone
16 May 1853 WmRoe's son Rufus King Gwin born. (WmRoe = age 32/30)--Big Sis Mary Ann Eliz. just turned 10, Big Bro Sutton is almost 5, J.W. just is 2. unk. record



7 Dec 1853 WmRoe's bro/bro-in-law Isom, Justice of Peace, dies in Dallas Co. (WmRoe=almost-33/31); King and Annie never get to really know their Uncle Isom. Obit, Dallas Gazette
March 1855 Last entry I have fr. Cotten diary--John, 62; Jane, 58; & WmRoe, 34/32 still living in Cahaba; King is almost 2; Cotten diary



1 Dec 1855 WmRoe's dau. Lucy Marcella Gwin born (WmRoe, 34/32); King's little sister unk. record
25 Sep 1858 WmRoe's son Isham Griffin Gwin, Sr. is born (WmRoe, 37/36) unk. record
1859 Railroad is built from Cahaba to Marion (WmRoe=38/36) MOOCFry-p67**
24 Jul 1860 WmRoe are living in Oakleyville, Bibb Co., AL, with their 6 children, Roe's brother Nathaniel Wilson,  and a William J. Wilson, 19, a farmer; William is a Master Mechanic; King is 7; US Cen.1860



11 Jan 1861 Alabama secedes from the Union (WmRoe=41/39); King is 7; World Book
27 Jun 1862 Charles Farr, age 29-30, who'd lived w/WmRoe in Nov 1850 (above), is killed in battle in Cold Harbor, VA, having enlisted only 3.5 mo. earlier. MOOCFry-p112**
10 Feb. 1863 WmRoe's son Thomas Wilson Gwin born  Tombstone
1 Jul 1863 Nephew Walter Roark is killed at Gettysburg, ca. age 21 (WmRoe=42/40); King is 10; MOOC, Fry**
Spg 1865 Another big flood inundates Cahaba just before the surrender (WmRoe=44/42) MOOCFry-p68**
9 Apr 1865 Lee surrenders to Grant at Appomattox (WmRoe=44/42); King is almost 12; World Book
25 Jan 1866 WmRoe's dau. Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin  marries (in Dallas? Bibb? Shelby? Co.) Robert Guy Lochridge; Kg/Ann = 12/ca.15; unk. record