Chesley R. Gwinn

and 
Levinia Clay


Page updated 5 May 2020



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See our developing theory on the "As-of-yet Unrelated" Gwins.

The reformatting of the name font and census data for this page has NOT been completed. --John M. Gwin, Aug 2011


Sources:

(1): Barbara Ward checked the pedigree file for Levinia Clay and Chesley R. Gwin. Deborah Peterson's source was: Book E page 416 Lauderdale Co., MS (see below).

(2): Rita Litchfield (RLitch616@aol.com) left a post on a Rootsweb board (copied below). Her data is added in this purple color.

(3): Deborah Cheryle Peterson submitted this information on an Individual Record with FamilySearch TM Pedigree Resource File, Disc #3. Her data, where different, is added in this green color.  She lists her sources as:

• Book E, page 416, Lauderdale Co., MS
• Samuel Clay names his grandchildren who are the children of his daughter, Levinia Clay Gwinn and husband Chesley R. Gwinn, deceased 3 Jan 1848.
• Probate File - Index I:
        * Abia Clay appointed guardian to minor heirs of Chesley R. Gwinn
        * Stephen W. Clay appointed guardian to Mary Gwinn
        * Samuel Clay appointed guardian to minor heirs of Chesley R. Gwinn
(4) Alabama Censuses of 1830-1880

(5) BLM.gov's land grant site

(6) Allen, James M., Jr., compiler, of Rocky Mount, NC; Major Henry Filmer of England and Virginia: Some Notes on His Ancestry and a Partial List of Descendants; 27 Nov 2000; Genealogical Research Report GR-112700-1; Microfilmed 2 Nov 2001at Fam. Hist. Lib., Salt Lake City, UT

(7) In April 2020, Cousin Jody Bell appeared as a distant cousin on my list of Ancestry DNA matches.  Her tree contains connections to this Chesley Gwinn and Levinia Clay.



 
 
Disclaimer: Until listed otherwise, everything on this page is to be taken as hearsay and/or speculation based on hearsay



Cousin Barbara Ward and I met in Tucson in February 2004 and compared notes.  (She's done far more than I in this search so far.)

But we've found many Chesley Gwins (the last name spelled several different ways, of course), and both of us are convinced that they must all be related.  Here's the basis of our conviction:

Richard Gwin of Jamestown, VA, married his neighbor Sarah Chesley and began raising a family.

So it made sense to us, when we saw that their grandson, John Gwin (son of Isham Gwin), had named his fourth son Chesley R. Gwin, that the middle initial R. would stand for Richard.  Below you'll see that this indeed bore out in at least one of these descendants.

We have decided to make the cautious assumption that all of these Chesley Gwins are indeed related and descend from our Richard and Sarah.  We build this page in the light of that assumption.



 
Chesley's line
Levinia's line

(from James Allen:)

16.00--Henry Filmer,
17.00--Martha Filmer,
18.00--Thomas,
19.00--Lucy Green,
20.00--Abijah,
21.00--Samuel Clay,
 
21.00--unknown  [John M. Gwin Note: Could this be Richard Gwin and Sarah Chesley? See my note directly below this chart.]
 
21.00--Samuel Clay (Debbie Peterson agrees) , b. unk. date/place; d. ca. 1848 unk. place; bd. unk. date/place; m. unk. date/place to unk. person (Debbie Peterson says Tabitha Clay) (b. unk. date/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place); at least one child 
 
22.00--Chesley R. Gwinn (Debbie Peterson says Chester R. Gwinn), b. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says ca.1780); d. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says ca.1835 in Sumter Co., AL); bd. unk. date/place; m. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says 1819 in St.Clair Co., AL) (Debbie Peterson says 16 Apr 1819 in St. Clair Co.)to Levinia Clay (Rita Litchfield agrees) (Debbie Peterson agrees) (b. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says ca. 1799 in GA)(Debbie Peterson says 1800); d. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says bef. 1835 (Debbie Peterson agrees) in AL, poss. Sumter Co.); bd. unk. date/place); 6 children (Rita Litchfield says 8 ch., birth order unk.)
22.00--Levinia Clay, b. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says ca. 1799 in GA) (James Allen says), d.o Samuel Clay; d. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says bef. 1835 in AL, poss. in Sumter Co.) (James Allen says 1848); bd. unk. date/place; m. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says 1819 in St. Clair Co., AL) (James Allen says 16 Apr 1819 in St. Clair Co., AL) to Chesley R. Gwinn (Rita Litchfield agrees) (b. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says ca.1780); d. unk. date/place (Rita Litchfield says ca.1835 in Sumter Co., AL); bd. unk. date/place); 6 children (Rita Litchfield says 8 ch., birth order unk.)

[John M. Gwin Note: If Litchfield is correct about the birth year of this Chesley R. Gwin, it would fit perfectly that he could be a son of Richard Gwin and Sarah Chesley who were alleged to have married ca. 1773 in James City, VA. It would also mean, then, that Chesley R. Gwin was a brother to Isham Gwin. It would further mean that Richard and Sarah moved through NC and SC to Georgia (since Levinia is from GA), lending great support to my theory that all these Chesley Gwins are descendants of Richard and Sarah.]

23.01--Chesley R. Gwinn, Jr., (Debbie Peterson agrees) b. unk. date/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place; m. unk. date/place to unk. person (b. unk. date/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place); unk. children

23.02--Haley B. Gwinn (Debbie Peterson agrees), b. unk. date (Debbie Peterson says 1821) (James Allen says b. ca. 1821)/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place; m. unk. date/place to Minerva Pace (b. unk. date/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place); at least one child (Rita Litchfield says: We found sons Haley and Samuel in Lauderdale Co., MS in 1850.  Both were married, with children.  Haley's family remained in Lauderdale Co., but we haven't found Samuel after 1850.  And we haven't found any of the other children.)

24.00--Chesley R. Gwinn (III?), b. ca. 1848? in unk. place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place; m. unk.; [John M. Gwin Note:  Is this the same CRG who is the postmaster at New Birmingham, Cherokee Co., TX, from 1899 to 1906?  The dates fit...]; at least one child;
25.00--Annie Gwinn, b.; m. W. E. Massey ( );

Obituary of Mrs. Annie Guinn Massey, Garland County, AR
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ar/garland/obits/m2000001.txt

********************************************************************************
Submitted by:  Barbara Jane Stainback <bstainback1938@yahoo.com>
Date: 18 Jan 2003
Copyright. All rights reserved.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/copyright.htm
********************************************************************************
 
MRS. W. E. MASSEY, PIONEER RESORT CLUB WOMAN, DIES
Past UDC President had been ill for several weeks (Picture on Page 6)

        Mrs. Annie Guinn Massey, 76, one of the best-known club women in Arkansas, died unexpectedly yesterday afternoon at her home, 738 Quapaw Ave.
        Mrs. Massey had been ill for the past several weeks, but had returned home 10 days ago from St. Joseph's Infirmary where she spent more than a week. At the time she was fatally stricken yesterday she was sitting in bed talking with members of her family.
        Mrs. Massey, born here in 187, (My notes: "part of date missing") the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Chesley Richard Guinn, among the early white settlers in Hot Springs, was a past president general of the United Daughters of the Confederacy and had served as state and local president of the UDC. At the time of her death she was serving as historian for the Hot Springs chapter and was planning the annual UDC essay contest among high school pupils.
        Mrs. Massey was instrumental in the organization of the Annie Guinn Massey chapter, Children of the Confederacy, which was named in her honor.
        She had also served as local and state president of the Daughters of the American Revolution and was a former president of the Arkansas Pioneers Association. She was also a member and past president of the Fortnightly study club of Hot Springs.
        At the time of her death she was serving the DAR chapter here as chairman of the national historical magazine and as national defense chairman.  On the state board of that organization she held the position of genealogist.
        Mrs. Massey was a lifelong member of First Baptist Church where she was deacon emeritus. She worshipped with the congregation of  (continued on page 6)



I couldn't find it.  But I have lots of clippings to go through.  bjs

This is from a Hot Springs newspaper, Hot Springs, AR--it had no date. The woman who owned these died in 2002.  Hope it will help someone.

_._--Deborah Cheryle Peterson, private
23.03--Samuel C. G. Gwinn (Debbie Peterson agrees), b. unk. date/place (James Allen says b. ca. 1825); d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place; m. unk. date/place  (James Allen says m. in Lauderdale Co., MS) to unk. person(Debbie Peterson says to Mary, nee unk.) (b. unk. date/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place); unk. children (Rita Litchfield says: We found sons Haley and Samuel in Lauderdale Co., MS in 1850.  Both were married, with children.  Haley's family remained in Lauderdale Co., but we haven't found Samuel after 1850.  And haven't found any of the other children.)

23.04--Elizabeth Gwinn, b. unk. date (Debbie Peterson says 1827)/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place; m. unk. date/place to unk. person (b. unk. date/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place); unk. children

23.05--William Wiley Clay Gwinn, b. unk. date (Debbie Peterson says 1830) /place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place; m. unk. date/place to unk. person(b. unk. date/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place); unk. children

23.06--Mary Fanny Gwinn, b. unk. date (Debbie Peterson says 1833) /place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place; m. unk. date/place to unk. person(b. unk. date/place; d. unk. date/place; bd. unk. date/place); unk. children [John M. Gwin Note: In trying to combine the data from the two sources (i.e., Peterson, who listed 6 children, and Litchfield, who listed 8), I arbitrarily decided that since they agreed on all but one, that Mary and Fanny must be the same person--i.e., Mary Frances (a common combination).]

23.07--Petry(?) Gwinn;

23.08--Levina Gwinn;


Correspondence and Posts

7 Feb 2004
Hi John,
Just got back from the history center. Ordered the Hatcher Papers film. Should be in when I get back from Tucson.

A few weeks ago I ordered films from the Leonardo Andrea collection. He was a noted research genealogist (mainly in the southern states; he lived in Columbia, SC (1940-50-60's) when he was doing most of his research). His collection is filmed and I had ordered four films: Wilson/Willson, Wilson, my Browns and my Lesters. Well, there's a lot of information on the Wilson surname in South Carolina from colonial times. He has all the Wilson (of SC) will abstracts, and there are plenty!  I tried reading them all but had to give up til we get back from Tucson. Way too many to read and try to find a son named Nathaniel and Ezekiel.   I ordered the fiche that had the index on it, but it hadn't come in yet.  Maybe by the end of the week; will check that for first names.

Checked the pedigree file for Levinia Clay and Chesley R. Gwin. Deborah Peterson's source was: Book E page 416 Lauderdale Co., MS.
Samuel Clay names his grandchildren who are the children of his daughter, Levinia Clay Gwinn and husband Chesley R. Gwinn, deceased Jan. 3, 1848. I assume the year 1848 was when Samuel died.
Probate File - Index 1
Abie Clay appt. guardian to minor heirs of Chesley R. Gwinn; Stephen W. Clay appt. guardian of Mary Gwinn
Samuel Clay appt. guardian of minor heirs of Chesley R. Gwinn. Their six children were Chesley R., Haley B., Samuel, Elizabeth, William Wiley and Mary. The line that Deborah carries down is from Haley (male) who married Minerva Pace (hence the connection to the Pace Family Tree by Albert Pace.)

I'm going to get ahold of the submitter Deborah C. Peterson of Mabank , Tx. Maybe she will have photo copies of those mentioned documents without having to order the film (if it turns out to be our Chesley). I still haven't figured out how I'm going to follow up but one step at a time.  Maybe Deborah will have some idea when Chesley died or where.
I contacted Gordon Gray via email several days about his submission to Ancestry.com about Chesley and Levinia Clay but no reply yet.

Another person submitted material to GenCircles (Walter H. Vandevender) whvande@comcast.net (found on gendex).  He follows this same Haley Gwinn.  His sources aren't listed.  Will send an email this afternoon.

Checked the pedigree resource file for Isham Gwin and Mary Canterbury. No further information than what was listed on the FamilySearch webpage. This submitter was a Daniel Rose.

John, check the Genforum webpage and look under Canterberry/Canterbury and see your remarks (#190 and another one in the 190's) This is why I don't think this is our guy. One reason being, you found the land grant information that shows maybe Isham Gwinn witnessing a land grant in 1839. He would still be in Sevier county and not in Indiana as thought.

That's all to report. I can't believe no one has tried to research the Gwins with all the material you have put out there on the internet or any descendants that check your webpage. It is so fascinating to get a new line and run with it! Right up my alley!

Have a nice weekend. Lovely here!
Catch you later,
BARB





Good Morning John,
I found something that might be something to follow up on. Just an idea but I need your thoughts. I can't remember if I first read it on your webpage or found it on Genforum or what. Could have been in your "interesting correspondence" stuff.

Could Isham Gwin and Mary Canterbury have had another child named "Chesley"?  (Chesley for his father and the "R" from Richard Gwin, his grandfather.) There is a Chesley R. Guinn/Gwinn floating around the internet; born 1798 possibly TN; married to a Levinia Clay(b. ca 1800 GA) in St. Clair Co., AL, on 16 April 1819.

Well, here's where it becomes a possibility. Levinia Clay's parents were Samuel Clay and Tabiath ?.  Levinia's brother Stephen W. Clay married his wife Nancy Jones 12 Nov. 1828 Perry County (adjacent to Dallas Co.). So they were at least in the same area at the same time.  The person (Rita Litchfield) who placed this query stated:

"Chesley R. b about 1780, possibly TN; died about 1835 in Sumter Co., Al. Wife Levinia died before that (1835). Their children were orphans and were farmed  out to family members, and some of the children moved to Mississippi".
So I went checking in the Sumter records and indeed found her brother Stephen W. Clay there.

I found a Chesley R. Gwinn in the 1830 census in Perry County, Al; age bracket 40-50 (the right age to be this Chesley and the right age to be a son of Isham). Chesley had one son under 5 and two sons between 5-10. No daughters.  Female was also between 40-50. (Levinia still alive in 1830.)

Could not find a Chesley R. Gwinn/Guinn in the 1840 census. (query said he died about 1835). None in the 1850 except John's son Chesley. We have no way of knowing if John Gwin knew he had a brother Chesley. Maybe Chesley left TN as John did, and John thought he had died and thus no mention of him. I don't know how I'm going to follow up on this; or if it's worth checking into.

Gordon Gray, a submitter of Chesley and Levinia, gave his sources as Come Walk With Me - An Autobiography and History by Glenn Gordy (pg 189), Thadis Grafton's GraftonTree and Albert Pace's The Pace Family Tree. I found the "Come Walk With Me" on the internet but could not find a page 189 for the source of marriage information, etc., on Levinia and Chesley. I emailed Thadis and the person who placed the query (Rita Litchfield) but no reply as yet and their emails haven't come back so that's promising. Did not contact Gordon as yet.

What do you think? Is it a wild goose chase? I don't mind a challenge, as you know. Just don't know if it's worth the time. It sounded real good to me about midnight last night when I was on line but after I've slept on it, I'm having second thoughts. Need some input, please.
Catch you later.
BARB





Hi, Barb!

I decided to include your e.mail as an introduction to this page.  I have been using it as a catch-all for several other Chesley Gwins (other, that is, than the Chesley R. Gwin who is the son of John Gwin and Jane Walker and grandson of Isham Gwin and Mary Ann Canterbury Gwin and Tom Walker, Sr., and Elizabeth Magill Walker).

My input is this: I am excited to have someone else interested in following up on this Chesley Gwin mystery!  Sounds to me like you may be onto something, and I definitely think it's worth pursuing.

Grandpa Isham and Grandma Mary Ann Canterbury Gwin clearly--MUST've--had other children.  I believe that Richard and Sarah Chesley Gwin must've had others, also.  And I speculate that Richard and Sarah are the link between all the Chesley Gwins.





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CHESLEY R. GWIN
[John M. Gwin Note--5 May 2020:  This is clearly the son of John and Jane (Walker) Gwin and grandson of Isham and Mary Ann (Canterbury Gwin).  Click link to go to Chesley's page.]
Male Family
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
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Marriages:
Second Spouse: PATTY B. WHITFIELD Family
Marriage:
21 DEC 1870, Dallas, Alabama
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M593003 1862 - 1890 1298628 V. F-K Film NONE
Sheet:
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Individual Record FamilySearch™ Pedigree Resource File
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Chesley R. Gwinn Compact Disc #3
Sex: M
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Event(s):
Birth:  1848 Place:
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Parents:
Father: Haley B. Gwinn Disc #3
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Notes and Sources:
Notes: None
Sources: None
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Submitter:
Deborah Cheryle Peterson (---)
7036 Porthville, Mabank, TX 75147
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Submission Search: 388566-070399223838
URL:
CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #3
CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources.
Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS
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About FamilySearch Pedigree Resource File:
The Pedigree Resource File is a new lineage linked database of records available on compact disc containing family history records submitted by individuals through FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service. Family information is organized in family groups and pedigrees and includes submitted notes and sources. Many charts and reports can be printed from this data. Each disc contains about 1.1 million names. With the publication of every five discs, a master index for those discs will also be published and packaged with that set of discs. Discs may be purchased individually or as sets.
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Please Note:
Submitter information is provided to help in the coordination of personal family history research. Use of this information for any other purpose, including marketing, advertising, or commercial solicitation, is strictly prohibited.
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Individual Record FamilySearch™ Pedigree Resource File
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Chesley R. Gwinn Compact Disc #3
Sex: M
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Event(s):
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Parents:
Father: Chester R. Gwinn Disc #3
Mother: Levinia Clay Disc #3
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Notes and Sources:
Notes: None
Sources: None
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Submitter:
Deborah Cheryle Peterson (---)
7036 Porthville, Mabank, TX 75147
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Submission Search: 388566-070399223838
URL:
CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #3
CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources.
Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
About FamilySearch Pedigree Resource File:
The Pedigree Resource File is a new lineage linked database of records available on compact disc containing family history records submitted by individuals through FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service. Family information is organized in family groups and pedigrees and includes submitted notes and sources. Many charts and reports can be printed from this data. Each disc contains about 1.1 million names. With the publication of every five discs, a master index for those discs will also be published and packaged with that set of discs. Discs may be purchased individually or as sets.
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Please Note:
Submitter information is provided to help in the coordination of personal family history research. Use of this information for any other purpose, including marketing, advertising, or commercial solicitation, is strictly prohibited.
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The following was excerpted from the page at   http://www.rootsweb.com/~txpost/cherokee.html

POSTMASTERS & POST OFFICES OF CHEROKEE COUNTY, TEXAS, 1847 - 1930

According to this page, among the many cities, towns, and rural post offices in Cherokee County, Texas, from 1847 to 1930, that a post office named New Birmingham, TX, had a postmaster named Chesley R. Gwin who was the last of seven postmasters there (from 4 Dec 1899 to 31 Jan 1906--some 74 months):

...NEW BIRMINGHAM (Cherokee Co., TX)

Neill, John F., 14 Jan 1889
Baker, Willard W., 23 Jan 1890
Boyd, Lillian D., 3 May 1892
Hahl, Louisa J., 28 Sep 1892
Neill, John F., 21 Jun 1893
Whitehurst, Martin T., 3 Nov 1897
Gwin, Chesley R., 4 Dec 1899

Discontinued 31 Jan 1906; mail to Rusk...




From the Rootsweb page of Rita Litchfield's post: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ALABAMA/1998-07/0901335909

ALABAMA-L Archives

From: <RLitch616@aol.com>
Subject: Chesley R. GUINN and Levinia CLAY, in Alabama
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:05:09 EDT

Trying to find any info about CHESLEY R. GUINN, b. ca.1780; d. ca.1835 in Sumter Co., AL (the last name is spelled many different ways, but mostly Guinn, Gwinn, or Gwyn).  Chesley married LEVINIA CLAY, 1819 in St. Clair Co., AL. Levinia was b. ca.1799 in GA; d. before 1835 in AL, possibly in Sumter Co.

This is our brick wall:   Their orphaned children were parceled out to various families. Some of the children moved to MS.  Names of minor children mentioned in Chesley's estate:

1) Petry(?);
2) Haley B.;
3) Samuel C. G.;
4) Elizabeth;
5) Levina;
6) Fanny;
7) William W.;
8) Chesley, Jr.
These may not be in birth order - no birthdates or ages were given in the record.

We found sons Haley and Samuel in Lauderdale Co., MS in 1850.  Both were married, with children.  Haley's family remained in Lauderdale Co., but we haven't found Samuel after 1850.  And haven't found any of the other children.

We would appreciate any info about Chesley's parents and any info about the children of Chesley and Levinia. Thank you.

Rita Litchfield                   internet address: RLitch616@aol.com




ASSUMING THAT JOHN AND CHESLEY OF GEN. 3 BELOW ARE BROTHERS, THE FOLLOWING SHOULD BE CORRECT; HOWEVER, CHESLEY (m. LEVINIA) COULD BE A SON OF ISHAM'S BROTHER, IN WHICH CASE THE RELATIONSHIPS SHOWN BELOW WILL BE WRONG.
 

Gen. 1

Richard Gwin 
m. Sarah Chesley
CONNECTION to ISHAM,
BELOW, FAIRLY SECURE







Gen. 2

 
 


CONNECTION TO JOHN, BELOW, MORE AND MORE SECURE
BY A GROWING MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE

CONNECTION to RICHARD,
ABOVE, FAIRLY SECURE

Isham Gwin
 (go to his page)
m. Mary Canterbury




 
 
 

CONNECTION TO CHESLEY, BELOW,
SPECULATED AT BEST,
AND MOST LIKELY INCORRECT

BASED ON THIS CHESLEY R. GWINN'S DOB




Gen. 3
CONNECTION TO ISHAM, ABOVE, MORE AND MORE SECURE
BY A GROWING MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE

John Gwin, b. Nov 1792 in Sevier Co., TN (then NC); d.  7 Mar 1877 at Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL;
m. 8 Apr 1812 in Blount Co., TN, to Jane Walker (b. ca. 1794; d. at Cahaba after 16 Feb 1864* and before 1870 census; bd. at New Cem., Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL)

CONNECTION TO CHESLEY R. GWIN, BELOW, "PROVEN"

<--SIBLINGS?-->



CONNECTION TO ISHAM, ABOVE,
SPECULATED AT BEST,
AND MOST LIKELY INCORRECT
BASED ON THIS CHESLEY R. GWINN'S DOB
 
 
 

Chesley R. Gwinn, b. ca.1780; d. ca.1835 in Sumter Co., AL; m. 1819 in St. Clair Co., AL to Levinia Clay (b. ca.1799 in GA, d/o Samuel Clay; d. before 1835 in AL, possibly in Sumter Co)
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

CONNECTION TO CHESLEY R. GWIN,
 BELOW, "PROVEN"



Gen. 4
CONNECTION TO JOHN GWIN, ABOVE, "PROVEN"
 

Chesley R. Gwin (go to his page) b. ca. 1828; m1. 20 Mar 1850 to Mary Frances "Fannie" E. Bell (b. ca.1830)
m2. before 6 Dec 1909 to Paralee Blevins
 
 

CONNECTION SPECULATED

<--1ST COUSINS?-->
CONNECTION "PROVEN"


Haley Gwin 
m. Minerva Pace
 
 

CONNECTION UNKNOWN

<--SIBLINGS--> CONNECTION "PROVEN"


Samuel Gwin 

m. Mary (nee unk.)
 
 

CONNECTION UNKNOWN

<--SIBLINGS
CONNECTION TO CHESLEY R. GWINN,
 ABOVE, "PROVEN"


Chesley Richard Gwin
b. 23 Feb 1828; d. 24 Feb 1905 in Garland Co., AR; m. Eliza "Liza" Jane Rash (b. unk.; d. 10 Jan 1906);


CONNECTION UNKNOWN
Gen. 5
CONNECTION SPECULATED
 
 

Chesley James Gwin, b. ca. 1866 in AL; m. in no. CA. ca. 1902 to Elizabeth "Bessie" Flynn Boyd (b. ca. 1863 in Ireland).  Prior to that (per the 1900 census) Bessie Boyd and her two sons lived in Sonora Tnshp, Tuolumne Co., CA. 

The 1910 census shows Chesley J., Bessie. and Robert (my grandfather) living in Contra Costa Co., in Bay Point.     Anna Todd

<--2ND COUSINS?-->
CONNECTION UNKNOWN
 
 
 
 
 

Chesley R. Gwin
b. 1848, MS; m. unk.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

<--SAME PERSON?-->
CONNECTION UNKNOWN
 
 
 
 

Chesley R. Gwin
b. 1848, MS; m. unk.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

<--1ST COUSINS-->

CONNECTION UNKNOWN Chesley S. Gwyn, b. ca. 1860 in IL (age 70 in the 1930 Census for Adams Co., [Precinct 10, Lower Platt, n. of Denver] CO); single; father b. TN; mother b. ME.
 
 
 
 
 

 

Gen. 6









Gen. 7 |||








From: "Barbara L.Ward" <genealogy@prodigy.net>
Date: Thu Feb 26, 2004  01:55:23 AM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Chesley R. Guinn's vitals

Hi Again,
Just received an email from Garland Co., Arkansas volunteer with some info on Chesley Richard Guinn, s/o of Chesley R. Guinn and Levenia Clay.
SOURCE:  Children of the Confederacy.
The volunteer goes on to say "To get to Annie Guinn Massey papers, we will have to check our Registrar Papers."

Chessley (sic) Richard Guinn was born 23 Feb. 1828 and died 24 Feb. 1905 Hot Springs (Garland Co.) and wife Eliza Jane Rash died 10 Jan 1906 but I cannot find either one in the 1900 census for Garland Co., Arkansas. I lose him after the 1880 census. He's in Hot Springs (age 50) with wife Eliza. I  had guessed his birth year to be 1830; I was close!

BARB




From: "Barbara L.Ward" <genealogy@prodigy.net>
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2004  12:32:31 PM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: LDS film numbers

Hi John,
The film numbers are as follows:
Book 2     1,012,793
Book 3     1,012,794
Book 4     1,012,795
Book 23   1,012,814

BARB





Dear John,

We've been trying to find out more about Chesley S. Gwyn for our next book on Colorado history and are hoping you might be able to help us. He appears in the 1930 Federal Census for Colorado (Adams County, Precinct 10, Lower Platt), north of Denver. He is 70 years old [therefore est. b. 1860], single, and reports that he was born in Illinois, his father born in Tennesee, and his mother born in Maine.

Do you have any information on him?  Thanks for any help you can give us.

Rawlene LeBaron  Rawlene@aol.com
 

PS: To share information that I have on the Gwinn family:

Richard Gwynn (alternate spellings include Gwinn, Gwin, Gwyne, and Guinn) was an outspoken Indian trader, who immigrated to Baltimore County about 1665. It is thought that he was born about 1646 and immigrated from Wales. The surname of his wife, Hannah, has not been verified.¯

Baltimore County was settled after the more fertile croplands of the Eastern shore of Maryland. By 1666, about the time Richard Gwynn settled there, the population of Baltimore County had reached only about 720. As the population grew, settlements reached up the valleys, and in 1669 Richard Guinn established a trading post along Gwynn's Falls (today, Gwynn's Falls is in Baltimore, although not in a good area) adjacent to the Seneca Indian trail.

Seneca Trail was named for the Seneca Indians who journeyed south in June along this trail to their hunting grounds in Anne Arundel and Howard Counties and, using the same trail, returned in September. The trail followed the Susquehanna River, down to the bay to Seneca Creek near the Gunpowder River. It crossed Harford and Baltimore Counties, until it split at Gwynn's Falls.

By 1672, Lord Baltimore granted Richard Guinn a 200-acre parcel of land as a reward for his efforts in helping the colony grow (Zucker, pages 72-96).

Master Percy, an early explorer of the region, described Seneca Trail about 1640 (reprinted in Zucker, 1995, pages 72-96) as:

. . . a pathway like an Irish pace, having beside it for miles the pleasantest suckle, the ground all flowing over with fair flowers of sundry colors and kinds, as though it had been a garden in old England.
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It was probably in an Indian trading post along the Seneca Trail that Richard Gwynn and his wife Hannah lived and raised their children. They had at least three children: Thomas, Elinor (who married Peter Bond Jr. -- his father had immigrated from England about 1660), and a second daughter whose given name is not known. They may have had a second son who died as a young adult.

In 1692, Richard Gwynn served as constable of the south side of Patapsco Hundred, placing his death in mid-1692 because his will was probated later that year.

His will, dated 19 September 1692 and 1 November 1692, and probated in Baltimore Co., is on file at the land office in Annapolis (book 6, page 48). Key provisions of his will were:

· To his son Thomas, under the age of 21, he bequeathed 60 acres of his Brandan parcel;
· To his daughter (________) Lockett, the wife of John Lockett, he bequeathed the remaining part of the Brandan parcel;
· To his daughter Elinor, the wife of Peter Bond Jr., he bequeathed the 300-acre Newtown parcel, which he and Edward Halton had surveyed in 1672.
· He also named his wife Hannah, his daughter-in-law Ann Cornwell [possibly a step daughter, but more likely the remarried widow of a deceased son], and his son-in-law John Lockett.

His estate was inventoried by Richard Roben and William Haskens and valued at 66 pounds, 18 shillings, in addition to debts due him valued at 4,800 pounds in tobacco.

(See also some of the Maryland research published by Robert Barnes.)




Correspondence w/ Barb of 10 Mar 2004--data not yet added to above outline



----- Original Message -----
From: Niblett@aol.com
To: genealogy@prodigy.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Your Perkins line

Hi, Barb,
 
We must have much the same research on the Perkins family.  ...

Now, for the Guinn line. 

Charles Guinn, b ca 1750-1760, place unkn., died in Sumter Co., AL between 1835-1840.  His wife's name has never been discovered.  Charles Guinn was in Surry Co., NC in 1784-1787.  By 1790 he had moved to Burke Co.  By ca. 1800 Charles Guinn was in Madison Co., AL or Mississippi Territory as it was known then.  In 1816 he was still in Madison Co., AL, but by 1819 Charles moved to Blount Co., AL, and his son Henry ( from whom I am descended) received a land grant along with Charles.  From Blount Co. they went to Tuscaloosa Co., AL, Sumter Co., where Charles died.  Henry had married Mary AnnFitzgerald in Madison Co., AL, and he and Mary moved toWashington Co., AL, which became Choctaw Co. in 1845. Henry Guinn descendants still live in Choctaw. 

Also in the 1790 census was Champion Guinn.  Always thought he and Charles were brothers but can't prove it. 
 
I found a Chesley R. Guinn in Sumter Co., there is a sizable probate on him, names his children and wife.  Some of the family were in Lauderdale, MS.  Couldn't find a connection to Charles.  Asa Guinn in the Tuscaloosa also was of no connection to Charles.  Asa had a part Cherokee wife, Mary Gourd, dau. of Joseph Gourd, either a full or part Indian.
 
Isham Guinn is very familiar, I think he was connected in some way with Champion Guinn who also went to Tennessee.  Give me some time to go thru some files and get back to you.  Isham is not in my book.  I corresponded quite a bit with Champion Guinn descendants, and they mentioned Isham. 
 
Talk with you later,
 
Marilee




John,
This is the first of two from Marilee.
----- Original Message -----
From: Niblett@aol.com
To: genealogy@prodigy.net
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Chesley R. Guinn

Hi, Barb,
 
Chesley R. Guinn died by 21 Apr 1835 in Sumter Co., AL.  Probate indicates his children were: 

Petry,
Haley B.,
Samuel C.,
Elizabeth,
Chesley R.,
Lavinia,
Fanny,
Mary and
William Wiley.  


Father of wife, not named:  Samuel Clay.  He moved from Sumter Co., AL, by 22 July 1844 and was later found in Lauderdale Co., MS. 
 
All children were minors in June 1836.  The minors in Mar 1848 were Fanny, Mary, and William Wiley.   Lavinia married James Green.  Don't know the date. 
 
As for Isham Guinn:  All I have are notes sent me by another researcher.  Some quotes from the notes:
 
From the internet: 

1. Charles T. Guinn m. Nancy Davis, b. Franklin Co., TN
2. Charles Tillis Guinn and Jesse Pierce Guinn, sons of William Guinn b. VA, came to TN 1807.  William's father ISHAM GUINN to TN 1807 and was a delegate to the Tennessee Baptist Convention in Jonesboro, TN. 
 
From James T. Wall (email:  Jwall10011@aol.com, was from 1998--it may be changed):

Has info Champion Guinn has son Isham.  Went to SC.  "I have an Isham Guinn m. Mary Canterberry or Canterbury, Montgomery Co., VA in 1788."
 
All this info was sent to me from a researcher in Houston, TX.    Would you like to contact her?  Last I heard she had no email but has always been really great to exchange with snail mail. I hope this is a current address:

Julia Blake
4023 Curly Oaks
Houston, TX  77053 
She didn't have email as of 1998 so snail mail will be best.  I don't have her phone number either.  Tell her "Hi" for me; she is a dear lady.
 
This may help you to break down that brick wall--hope so.  I don't know if Chesley was a son of Isham..  Chesley was kinda dropped when he didn't connect. Sorry I don't have the probate papers on Chesley R. Guinn, just notes from the file and notations on the move to Lauderdale.  It's always a big help to read the entire file; so much can be gleaned from it. 
 
The "other" Guinn researcher was living in Houston, TX in 1998. 
 
Talk with you later,
Marilee
 
Good luck, 
 
Marilee




 
 From: "Barbara L.Ward" <genealogy@prodigy.net>
Date: Tue Mar 09, 2004  10:26:11 PM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Email from Jimmie Jones, Volunteer Garland Co., Ark.

John,
This person was checking DAR records for Anne Guinn Masssey, d/o of Chesley R. Guinn and Eliza Rash. I can't really tell if they found anything or not. Waiting to hear more.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmie Jones" <jimmie@hsnp.com>
To: <genealogy@prodigy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:10 AM
Subject: Massey family

Hello Barbara,
I have the sheet on
#1 Rose Mary Massey born 16 Jan 1948, daughter of
#2 Guinn Reese Massey Jr. born 12 Feb 1920 Hot Spgs, AR; married 27 April 1944 in Little Rock, AR, to Mary Frances Hart born 15 Aug 1920, Arkadelphia, AR.
#3 Guinn Reese Massey, Sr. born 17 Dec 1894 Hot Spgs, AR; married Mary Anderson Massey 15 Sept 1915 Arkadelphia, AR
#4 William Edwin Massey born 24 Aug 1870 Union, SC married Annie Guinn Massey 10 Nov 1893 Hot Springs, AR
#5  Chessley Richard Guinn born  23 Feb 1828  died 24 Feb 1905  Hot Spgs, AR; married 8  Dec1855 Elizabeth Jane Rash born 10 May 1833 Hernands, MS, died 10 Jan 1906  Hot Spgs, AR; married in Monticello, AR
This is all I have of Children of the Confederate. To get Annie Guinn Massey papers, we will have to check our Registrar papers.
Jimmie Jones



----- Original Message -----
From: "Frankie" <msjo@hsnp.com>
To: <genealogy@prodigy.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: Chesley R. Guinn - Hot Springs, AR

Barb,

C.R. Guinn appears in the 1880 Census of Garland Co., AR City of Hot Springs.  He is listed as D-153
Guinn, C.R., white, male, 50 yrs old, head of household, married, farmer, born in AL, father born in NC and mother born in GA.
Eliza, white, female, 45 yrs old, wife, married, born TN, no mention of where her father and mother were born.
There are also two children:

Henry Guinn, white-male-son 19yrs old, and
Anna Guinn, white-female-dau., 8yrs old.  Both children were born in Arkansas.  The Garland Co. Tombstone Inscriptions Book shows them to be buried in the Greenwood Cem. (City of Hot Springs). They are in the old Circle Block of the cemetery.  Greenwood Cem. is located on Greenwood Ave. covering 4 blocks from 3d street to 7th street with St. Louis Ave on its south side.
Chesley Richard Guinn, Feb. 23, 1828, died Feb. 24, 1905 -- Eliza Jane Guinn May 10, 1833, died Jan.10,1906.  Son Henry & wife are also buried here:  Henry C. Guinn born July 24, 1860 died March 27, 1914.  His wife, Nettie McDonald Guinn born Sept 15, 1874 died May 31, 1966.  It looks like their three children are also buried here:
Paul Hatton Nov 4, 1899 - Dec.16, 1938,
William McDonald Sept. 14, 1906 - May 18, 1931 and
Gill Lee June 1, 1909 - Oct.1, 1927.
Henry's sister Annie (Anna) who appears with him in the 1880 Census is also buried here with her husband.   Annie Guinn Massey wife of William Edwin Massey born Feb. 25, 1872 - died Dec. 20, 1948.  He was son of Henry Reese Massey and Harriet Ann Massey was born Aug. 24, 1870 Union Co. N.C. and died July 31, 1934.    Here is what the City of Hot Springs Death Records for 1896-1917 said about C.R. Guinn and his wife:
C.R.Guinn age 77 born U.S died 2-24-05, cause-nervous exhustion, male -white-married-resident, occupation-Merchant, attending physician, J.B. Payne, cemetery-Greenwood, undertaker-B & B.

E.J. Guinn, Mrs., age 73 born ?, died 1-10-06, cause-pneumonia, female-white-married-resident, occupation-housewife, attending physician, M.G. Thompson, cemetery-Greenwood, undertaker-McCafferty.

This is about all the information I could obtain from the library.  You need to come to Hot Springs sometime and see their graves.  It is not often that everyone is buried together and can be found. You are lucky.

Good hunting,
Frankie Ochsner





Hi John,

My films came in this a.m., so I had to go down and see if I could get a clearer copy of Isham's land grant. Somewhat better;  not 100% better. But I did look at the other ones that you were interested in.
Book #2   Made a very good copy of #988 Richard Shields land grant but it's not on page 114 as stated. It is on page #112 when you start looking for it. Grant dated at the bottom: May 9th 1810 with mention of Isham Guin. From this information Isham Guin was at least in the area as early as 1810 for Richard Shields land to be connected to Isham's land.
 
Charles Benefield #1645 is also a good copy but not on the right page either. Look for it on page 769; not 693. Grant dated June 20, 1810 with mention of "Guin's line" and "Veache's line"
MADE COPIES FOR YOU OF EACH AND THEY'LL BE IN THE MAIL TOMORROW A.M.!! I know you ordered the film, but they're not here yet, and you might like to have copies right now. The machine at the History Center made excellent copies, so I made one for each of us.

Book #4  Copy of Isham's land grant is on page 31 and made a fairly good copy. Hoped it would have come out better for my Lester book but don't believe so.

Book #3  Didn't have time to check that one out. It was closing and I had to leave. That one was just a William Gwin witnessing a land grant of a Susanna Richardson

Book #23  Did not come in yet. Was looking forward to seeing if the Givins looked like Guinn on Johnson Adams' land grant.
 
Okay. That takes care of the Guins.

I have had a few emails that are somewhat confusing. Had a reply back from Marilee (niblett@aol.com ). She wrote that Chesley R. Guinn died 21 April 1835 probably Sumter Co, Al. If that Chesley (who we think was the husband of Levenia Clay) died in 1835, who is the Chesley R. Guinn in the 1840 census in Perry County, Al?

I am forwarding her email on to you. I asked if she had the actual probate forms for Chesley R. Guinn, but she only had notes.

Also had an email from a Frankie ( a volunteer from Garland Co., Ark) who sent me information on Chesley's cemetery records. This Chesley R. is suppose to be the son of Chesley R. and Levenia Clay.
I had not heard back from Virginia Eash about a photo of Chesley R. Guinn, so I emailed her. She asked if I had a fax, and I said no but would still love to have a copy if she could send it snail mail. Still waiting.

Been working every waking moment on the Lester book. Almost done; hope to have it down to Kinkos by the weekend for binding. That's why I haven't been online much. I haven't even had time to check out the pages you emailed me about several days ago. Been so busy.

I still haven't heard from Linda Derry. I am having mixed thoughts about sending her the book. Maybe she would just like pictures of the Wilsons and Gwins and not all the others. I could still donate it to the Dallas Co. Gen. or Historical Society and it would be in the same area.

I did receive a packet of pictures from Leona Curtis yesterday. Of the Lester photos she sent, nothing new that I didn't already have. She sent quite a few unidentified pictures with "no name" written on the back. One might be one of the guys in album but hard to tell. There is a photo of Carlos Holley as a young boy about 10, but we have no photos as an adult. So I am back to square one on that lead. She didn't have anything new. But it was worth a shot. She asked her mother about all the un-identified ones, and she wrote on the back that her mother didn't know who they were either.

That's about all for now. Will put the copies in the mail tomorrow. Will try to attach the above mentioned emails. If I fail, I'll send them separately.
Have a good week,
BARB
 




From: "Jawee" <jawee@comcast.net>
Date: Fri Jun 16, 2006  06:49:34 PM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Re: Another Gwin/Chesley Connection
Reply-To: "Jawee" <jawee@comcast.net>

Nancie is my cousin. We have been tracking this family forever.

When I was 9 years old my Daddy became pastor of a church in the upper part of the state in SC. One day as I was exploring through the woods I ran across a grave that had my mother's last name on it. Now I know it belonged to Baysden Gwin's wife Sarah Maddox. From that day, I am now in my dont tell middle age, we have been looking for the history of our family.

Nancy and I have found that Baysden's father's name was John Gwin who married Elizabeth Baisden in Southhampton, Va.

Someone told me that they had two sons named John (Baisden?) and William. Could this John Gwin (Chesley's parents) remarried at some point?

Nannie's email is nancieo@earthlink.net. Let's keep in touch. Also in Christ, Joye McElrath Hanna

----- Original Message -----
From: John Gwin
To: Jawee
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Another Gwin/Chesley Connection

On Friday, June 16, 2006, at 09:48 AM, Jawee wrote:

Hi, My name is Joye McElrath Hanna from South Carolina. I was looking at your web site because I am doing a family tree from John Gwin/Elizabeth Baisden line from the 1700's in Southhampton, Va, to my mother who is a Gwin. It is interesting that several ancestors as well as my uncle have Chesley in their name. I have tried to find a reason but have not been successful. Do you have any info on the Gwins in SC that may help? Thanks, Joye

Joye,
I'm delighted to hear from you--thanks for writing!

I'm excited about the possiblities here, and I hardly know where to begin. Let's just jump right in:

First of all, I don't know what parts of the site you have had time to visit yet, so if you've already seen this, just skip it. If not, this might be very important for you. Several years ago a researcher named Nancie O'Sullavin wrote to me about her Baysden Gwin in SC. Nothing rang any bells, so I built a page for her line for her and posted the page on my site under http://gwingenealogy.net/GENEALOGY/SURNAMES/Gwin/gwinnBaysden.htm.  I had tried to make contact with her since, but she changed e.mail addresses and didn't tell me her new one.  Very recently I learned that Nancie has passed away.

Anyway, here's the link to my page for her--see what you think:

http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/GENEALOGY/SURNAMES/Gwin/gwinchampion.htm

Secondly, I have a theory about Chesley. By now you probably know where my own Chesley's names come from: my ggggg-grandpa, Richard Gwin, married Sarah Chesley near Jamestown sometime around 1760-1770 or so. (We believe that one of the Chesley Gwins who appear in Alabama is their son and my gggg-granduncle.)

Meanwhile, Richard's and Sarah's son Isham Gwin married Mary Canterbury in Montgomery Co., VA, and eventually became my gggg-grandparents. Their son John Gwin married Jane Walker and became my ggg-grandparents, and it was one of THEIR kids, Chesley R. Gwin (we're pretty sure the R is for Richard), who is the Chesley Gwin about whom we know the most. Here's our page for him:

http://www.gwingenealogy.net/jmcdgwin/gwinChesleyR.htm

Isham and Mary had one child who MAY have been named Chesley, but we're the LEAST clear about this one. FOR SURE two of Isham's and Mary's sons--William and John--moved to Alabama.

Now back to my theory: Richard and Sarah must have had other children, and one of them was probably a son named Chesley who moved south into SC. Here's one more webpage to investigate--see what you think:

http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/gwinnchesleyleviniaclay.htm

I have to go now--have fun looking--let me hear from you when you've had a chance to digest some of it.






From: MK <pppaaagggatgmaildotcom>
Date: September 10, 2009
To: genealogy@prodigy.net
Cc: mldyarbataoldotcom, John Gwin <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>, RLitch616ataoldotcom
Subject: Chesley R. Gwinn - William Wiley Gwinn/Guinn

Hi Ms. Ward!

Thank you for posting your Gwinn family history information at http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/gwinnchesleyleviniaclay.htm.  Diane Yarbrough brought the website to my attention.  I have previously posted at John Gwin's pages also at: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/guinnwilliamwiley.htm (two minor corrections to the info on that page -- my husband is the great-grandson of the William Jefferson Guinn mentioned there).  After Diane brought your webpage to my attention and after doing some researching, I believe that my husband's great-great-grandfather, William Wiley Guinn, was the son of Chesley R. Gwinn and Levinia Clay.  A quick background summary:  my husband's parents died when my husband was very young, and he was adopted and raised by his grandmother, Floy Belle Guinn (her maiden name).  She was the daughter of William Jefferson Guinn (and Lena May Jordan), who was the son of William Wiley Guinn (and Nancy Emily Dunlap).  My husband and I both had numerous conversations with Belle about her parents and grandparents.  Besides that, we have found census documents, etc., for those families.  Here is the info that I have:

1.  William Wiley Guinn at times went by his middle name (spelled various different ways including Wiley and Wylie).

2.  There was a Wiley Gwin in Magnolia, Columbia, Arkansas in 1860, age 26, born in Mississippi, and living in 1860 in the Askew household. Mr. Askew was a "lawyer & farmer" and Wiley Gwin was an "overseer".  I believe this was my William Wiley Guinn.

3.  My William Wiley Guinn and his wife, Nancy Emily [Dunlap] Guinn, were with their family in 1870 in Marion, Drew, Arkansas.  They had three children:  a daughter named "Emiline" (age 2), a son named "John F." (age 1), and a son named "James R." (age 1/12 months).  William Wiley Guinn was listed as William Guinn (the last name appears to read "Grisom"), age 35, born in Alabama.

4.  My William Wiley Guinn and his wife, Nancy Emily [Dunlap] Guinn, were with their family in 1880 in Ouachita Township, Hot Springs, Arkansas.  His name appears as "Wm W. Guinn" with wife "Emily".  They had seven children:  Elminia E. (age 12), John F. (age 11), James R. R. (age 10), Samuel L. (age 8), Susan B. (age 7), "Wm. J." age 5 (this is my husband's ancestor), and Alonzo N. (age 1).  William Wiley Guinn was listed as being age 45 and being born in Mississippi.  (As a side note, I believe their oldest daughter's name might have been "Elvinia" instead of "Elminia" and that her name was a cross between Nancy Emily's mother's name "Elizabeth" and William Wiley's mother's name "Levinia".  Just a theory!)

5.  My William Wiley Guinn and his wife, Nancy Emily [Dunlap] Guinn, were with their son, William Jefferson Guinn, in 1900 in Saline, Drew, Arkansas.  William Wiley Guinn was listed as "Wylie W. Guinn".  He was listed as being born in December 1834 in Mississippi, being married for 35 years (married in about 1865).  His wife is listed as being the mother of 7 children, 4 still living.

6.  I found William Wiley and Nancy Emily [Dunlap] Guinn at findagrave.com with their sons John F. and James R. R. Guinn.  They are buried at Rough and Ready Cemetery in Monticello, Drew Co., Arkansas. Here is the info found there:

W.W. Guinn - b. December 25, 1834 d. September 4, 1902
Nancy Emily Guinn - b. July 3, 1837 d. May 23, 1918
John F. M. Guinn - b. February 12, 1868 d. March 5, 1894 "s/o W.W. & N.E. Guinn"
James R. R. Guinn - b. May 31, 1870 d. December 3, 1891 "s/o W.W. & N.E. Guinn"
Here are the links (for William Wiley and Nancy Emily):
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSsr=41&GScid=56023&GRid=21079535&
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSsr=41&GScid=56023&GRid=21079527&

7.  When searching for William Wiley Guinn in the 1850 and 1860 censuses, I found a Samuel Guinn, with a wife, Mary, in the 1860 federal census in Saline, Drew, Arkansas (where William Wiley and Nancy Emily [Dunlap] Guinn were in 1900 and probably until the time they died).  This Samuel Guinn was 36 years old (born about 1824).  Both he and his wife, Mary, were listed as being born in Alabama.  Their first three children (Nancy A., Zachariah, and William H.) were listed as being born in Mississippi.  Samuel and Mary's younger four children (Chestley R., Martha L., Josephine, and Francis M.) were listed as being born in Arkansas.  At the time I found this document, I thought that this was possibly an older brother of my William Wiley Guinn.  They both had the Alabama/Mississippi connection, same generation, and they both ended up in Saline, Drew, Arkansas.  After seeing your webpage and the One World Tree for Chesley R. Gwinn and Levinia Clay, I believe that these two Guinn men (Samuel and William Wiley) that ended up in Saline, Drew, Arkansas) were brothers and were the sons of Chesley R. Gwinn and Levinia Clay.

8.  I just located the census document that you mentioned on your webpage for Samuel Gwinn in
1850 in Lauderdale, Mississippi (the son of Chesley and Levinia Gwinn) (page 27 of 60 for "not stated", Lauderdale County).  The surname appears to be "Givan".  However, the family matches that of the Samuel and Mary Guinn family in Saline, Drew, Arkansas.  The children in Lauderdale in 1850 were Nancy, Zachary T., and Henry Clay.  Plus, the Samuel Guinn family in 1860 in Saline had the son Chestley R. Guinn, which was probably a misspelling of Chesley R. Guinn.  Samuel probably was naming that son after Samuel's father.

9.  In 1850, two pages after the record for Samuel Gwinn in Lauderdale, Mississippi, I believe my William Wiley Guinn is listed at the top of the page (page 29 of 60).  His older sister Elizabeth is the last name listed on the previous page (page 28 of 60).  They are living next door and near the Clay families (Levinia Clay Gwinn's siblings).  William's name appears as "Wm Wayne".  His sister's last name appears to read Gwin or Guin.

10.  There are also IRS tax documents at ancestry.com for a Chesley R. Gwin (1865, Athens [possibly Selma area], Alabama), C. R. Gwinn (1868, Hot Springs, Arkansas), and C. R. Gwinn (1869, Hot Springs, Arkansas).  I wonder if this was Chesley and Levinia's son Chesley?  There was also a military listing for Confederate Civil War Soldiers for a C. R. Guinn with the alternate name of Richard C. Guinn from Arkansas.  I wonder if that could be the son of Chesley and Levinia?  There are other Chesley Gwins listed from Alabama in the Confederate Civil War soldiers listings.

11.  There is a pension record listed for William Wiley Guinn (listed as Wylie W. Guinn) at http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=aebf95a2af&view=att&th=1239d070d17399c3&attid=0.6&disp=inline&zw.  (Thank you so much to Diane Yarbrough for finding that document!)

Well, I had better stop here before this email gets way too long!  If you are interested in information about William Jefferson Guinn's family (son of William Wiley Guinn), please let me know.  I will try to attach some of the documents I mentioned above.

Thanks!

Kathryn

P.S.  I will copy this email to John Gwin, Rita Litchfield, and Diane Yarbrough.