[John M.
Gwin Note, 25 Mar
2010: Several of us have been working on
our
Gwin
lines. We determined that our John
Gwin had a brother William
Gwin who appears in 1805 in Sevier
Co.,
TN, and in 1820 and 1830 in Dallas Co., AL. Then he disappears.
At first we thought that Torrey's
William, below, who first appears in Lawrence Co., MS, in the
1840
census,
could be this same brother of John, but now we know that he
could
not. However, we may be nearer to tying some of these
lines
together, so we're looking at them more closely.
For example, Stan Gwin's page was incorporated into this one
after his
line was found to be a branch of this in March 2010.
SOURCES:
1. Torrey Gwin Hunter
(this page
was
started with only her data);
2. Stanford
Payne
Gwin and his son Stephen (we had another page for
them that was blended into this one after census documents
confirmed
that their William and this William were one and the same);
3. Wilson Farnham
submitted data
that throws light on Sylvester's
military experience;
4. Katherine sent in
some data from
Lincoln
County,
Its
People by Yvonne McGlothin;
5. The various census reports found through Ancestry.com.
6. Lucien
C.
Gwin,
IV, sent his family data back to his g-grandfather,
Lucien, Sr., and we were able to connect him at that point.
21.00--Mordecai Gwin??????
22.00--Mr.
Gwin, claimed by
Yvonne
McGlothin to be an uncle of U. S. Sen. Wm. McKendree Gwin,
M.D.
If her claim is true, then his first name has to be either
Edward,
Alexander, James, William, or John; his father would then have
to be Mordecai Gwin.
HOWEVER,
PLEASE
CONSIDER
THIS
DATA
TO BE UNPROVEN HEARSAY ONLY AT THIS POINT.
23.00--William
Gwin,
b.
ca
1780;
a
resident
of Lawrence Co.,
MS, according to the 1840 census; the details of his marriage and
the
name
of his wife are unknown to me (Torrey G. Hunter);
24.00--What happened to the information we had right
here on Solomon
Sutton and his wife, the daughter of William Gwin?
[listed as Solomon Sutton, age
37 and
b. in GA, in the 7 Aug 1850
census of Lawrence Co., MS]
25.01--Richmond
Gwin,
b.
ca.
1824
in
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m.
unk.;
unk.
ch.
[listed as Richmond Gwin, age 26 and b.
in MS, in the 7 Aug 1850
census of Lawrence Co., MS, and living with Rebecca and
Solomon Sutton]
25.02--[a daughter],
b.
betw.
1825-1830;
d. unk.; bd.
unk.; m.
unk.; unk. ch.
25.03--Isaiah Gwin,
b.
ca.
1830
(21
Nov
l830?); d. unk., bd. in city cem.,
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS; no known ch.
[listed as Isaiah Gwin, age 20 and b.
in MS, in the 7 Aug 1850
census of Lawrence Co., MS, and living with Rebecca and
Solomon
Sutton]; [listed
as
Isaiah Gwin, age 39, b. MS, a grocer, and living in the
home of his
younger brother Sylvester, in the 9 Jun 1870 census
of Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS]
[John M. Gwin
Note,
25 Mar 2004: The 1850 census of
Lawrence Co., MS, shows Isaiah (age
20)
and
Richmond Gwin (age 26) living in residence 14 with
Solomon
and Rebecca
(Mobley Gwin) Sutton--see 24.01 above.]
25.04--Sylvester Gwin,
b.
21
Nov
1832; d. 18 Feb 1928, age 95, Issaquena
Co., MS; bd. in Greenwood Cem.,
Jackson,
MS;
m. 29 Oct
1863
to Sarah Elizabeth "Lizzie" Prestridge
(b. ca. 1842 in MS; d. btw. 1870 and 1880; bd. unk.); at least
four
ch.;
(at least 49 g-grandchildren, one
of
whom is Torrey Gwin Hunter)
[listed as Sylvester Gwin, age 18, a
student, in the 29 Aug 1850
census of Lawrence Co., MS; he is living with a Thomas F.
Mobley, 32, a
clerk with assets of $1300, b. in MS
and m. within the year to
Jane
Mobley
(age
listed
as
" yN"),
b.
ME];
[listed as
Silvester, merchant, age 39 and b. MS, pers. assets $3000,
in the 9 Jun 1870
census of
Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS]; [listed as S. Gwin, widowed auditor,
age 47 and b. MS(KY/MS), in the 15 Jun 1880 census of
Beat #1,
Liberty Grove Pct., Hinds Co., MS]
[listed as Sarah E., age 28 and b. MS,
real assets $12,000, pers. assets $5,000, in the 9 Jun 1870 census of
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS]
From: "Cecile Wardlaw"
<cecilewardlawatgmaildotcom>; Date: April 14,
2010; To:
<jmcdgwin@zianet.com>; Re: your inquiry These are the
two
Gwin entries
on my list of burials at Greenwood: (1) Gwin, Sylvester b. 21
Nov 1832 d. 18
Feb 1928, and (2) Gwin,
Lawrence
D. (no dates given). Cecile
Wardlaw,
Secretary, Greenwood Cemetery Association, Jackson,
Mississippi
Sylvester
Gwin,
Captain of Co A 22nd
Miss.
Infantry; Posted by:
Wilson Farnham (ID
*****3927); Date:
October
11,
2005; Genforum Post #443 of 455
I am seeking information on Captain
Sylvester
Gwin, who was from Lawrence County, Mississippi.
He was a Circuit Clerk
there before the Civil War, and enrolled in the
Confederate Army as war
broke out, receiving the rank of 2nd Lieutenant,
then 1st Lt., then
Captain
of Company A.
After the war, I believe he left the Lawrence
County area for maybe Neshoba County? He is said
to be buried at
Greenwood
Cemetery in Jackson, MS. Lincoln County was made
from parts of several
counties, including Lawrence County, and his
memory was honored when
the
old soldiers and women of the county named their
United Confederate
Veterans
Camp the Sylvester Gwin Camp and the Sylvester
Gwin Chapter of the
United
Daughters of the Confederacy.
I am researching his name and history in
advance
of our Sons of Confederate Veterans Convention
that will be held in
Lincoln
County this coming June[2006]. I
would also appreciate any photos of Mr.
Gwin.
26.01--Lucien
Clouston
Gwin, Sr.,
b.
3
Jan
1867
in
MS;
d. 22
Feb
1916, Natchez, MS; m. 8 Jul 1903 to Annie
Shotwell Green
(b.
unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
[listed as
Lucien C., age 4 and b. MS, in the 9 Jun 1870 census
of Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed as Lucien C., 14 and b.
MS(MS/MS), in the 15 Jun 1880
census of Beat #1, Liberty Grove Pct., Hinds Co., MS]
27.00--Lucien
Clouston
Gwin, Jr.,
b.
unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; at least one ch.
28.00--Lucien
Clouston
Gwin, III,
b.
unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; at least one ch.
29.00--Lucien Clouston
Gwin, IV,
contributor [PRIVATE]
26.02--Edgar
C.
Gwin,
b.
ca.1868
in
MS;
d.
unk.
date/place w/o issue; bd. in Sanford,
FL; m. unk; no known ch.
[listed as
Edgar C., age 2 and b. MS, in the 9 Jun 1870 census of
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed as Edgar C., 13 and b.
MS(MS/MS), in the 15 Jun 1880
census of Beat #1, Liberty Grove Pct., Hinds Co., MS]
26.03--Lawrence D. Gwin,
b.
ca.1870
in MS; d. in
Oct. 1887 while a
student
at Ole Miss; bd. in Greenwood Cem.,
Jackson,
MS;
m.
unk.;
unk.
ch.
[listed as Lawrence D., age 1 and b.
MS, in the 9 Jun 1870
census of Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS]; [listed as Lawrence D., 11
and b.
MS(MS/MS), in the 15 Jun 1880
census of Beat #1, Liberty Grove Pct., Hinds Co., MS]
From:
"Cecile Wardlaw" <cecilewardlawatgmaildotcom>;
Date: April 14,
2010; To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>; Re: your
inquiry These are the two
Gwin
entries on my list of burials at Greenwood: (1) Gwin, Sylvester b.
21 Nov 1832 d. 18
Feb 1928, and (2) Gwin,
Lawrence
D. (no dates given). Cecile
Wardlaw,
Secretary, Greenwood Cemetery Association, Jackson,
Mississippi
26.04--Samuel Lizzie (sic?)
Gwin, b. 1872 in MS;
d. 5 Jan
l94l, Greenwood, MS; m. 1899 to Sally Barnes
Humphreys (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.);
unk. ch.
[listed
as Samuel L., 8 and b. MS(MS/MS), in the 15 Jun 1880 census of
Beat #1,
Liberty Grove Pct., Hinds Co., MS]
[John M. Gwin
Note, 25 Mar 2004:
The 1880
census of
Lawrence Co., MS, shows further evidence
that these could not be the family of our
William Gwin,
son of Isham: Sylvester's testimony that his father
(Joseph) was born
in Kentucky.]
24.02--William
McNichols Gwin,
b.
ca.
1810
in
TN;
d.
unk.; m1.
unk.; m2. 22
Dec 1830 in
Lawrence
Co., MS, to Sarah (Susan) Sutton(b.
ca.
1813 in TN;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.); at least 13 ch.
[listed as William
Gwin, age 50, b. Tenn, in the 22 Sep 1860 census of
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed
as
William
Gwin,
age
60,
b.
Tenn,
in
the
5
Aug 1870
census of Bogue Chitto,
Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as William
Gwin, age 70, b.
TN(NC/Scotland), in the 19 Jun 1880
census of Bogue Chitto Dist., Lincoln Co., MS]
[listed as Sarah Gwin,
age
47, b. Tenn,
in the 22 Sep 1860
census of Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed as Sarah
Gwin, age 57, b. MS,
in the 5 Aug 1870
census of Bogue Chitto, Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as Sarah
Gwin, age 68, b.
MS(GA/GA), in the 19 Jun 1880
census of Bogue Chitto Dist., Lincoln Co., MS]
There
was
a William McNichols Gwin who lived in
Mississippi. We think
he was
a brother to my ancestor Joseph Gwin. As far
as we know, there were
only 4 children in the family: Joseph,
William, Richmond and a girl
whose name I don't know. There could easily
have been more children.
William and his wife, Sarah Sutton Gwin, are
listed in detail in the
1860
Mississippi Census for Lawrence Co.,
Mississippi. I have listed their
children on the web page: http://www.gwingenealogy.net/GENEALOGY/SURNAMES/Gwin/gwintorrey.htm.
One
of
William's
descendent's
found
his will in Issaquena Co., Mississippi,
but I have not seen a copy. I am very
interested in finding Joseph
and William's parents. We have looked for
years all over Tennessee and
come up empty; do you have any information
behind that generation?
25.01--Martha Gwin,
b.
ca
1833
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as
Martha Gwin, age 27, b. Tenn, in the 22 Sep 1860 census of
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS]
25.02--Sarah Gwin,
b.
ca.
1837
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as
Sarah Gwin, age 23, b. Tenn, in the 22 Sep 1860 census of
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS]
25.03--Frances Gwin,
b.
ca.
1838
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. Minor
Edwin
Tynes (b. ca. 1839
in MS; d.
unk. bd. unk.); at least 2
ch.
[listed
as Frances Gwin, age 22, b. Tenn, in the 22 Sep 1860 census of
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed as T. C. Tynes, age 31 and b. in MS, in the
27 Jul 1870 census of
Twp. 7
(Brookhorn P. O.) Lincoln Co., MS] [listed as M. E.
Tynes,
age 31 and b.
in MS, in the 27 Jul 1870
census
of Twp. 7 (Brookhorn P.
O.) Lincoln Co., MS]
26.01--J.
D.
Tynes, son, b.
ca. 1861 in
MS;
d. unk.; bd. unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
J. D. Tynes, age 9 and b. in
MS, in the 27 Jul 1870
census of
Twp. 7 (Brookhorn P. O.) Lincoln Co., MS]
26.02--E. L. Tynes,
daughter,
b.
ca.
1862
in
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
E.
L. Tynes, age 8 and b. in MS, in the 27 Jul 1870 census of Twp. 7
(Brookhorn P.
O.) Lincoln Co., MS]
26.03--William G. Tynes,
son,
b.
ca. 1864 in MS; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.;
unk. ch.
[listed
as
W. G. Tynes, age 5 and b. in
MS, in the 27 Jul 1870
census of
Twp. 7 (Brookhorn P. O.) Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as William Tynes, age 16, b.
MS(---/---), in the 19 Jun 1880
census of Bogue Chitto Dist., Lincoln Co., MS]
26.04--S. E. Tynes,
daughter,
b.
ca.
1868
in
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
S.
E. Tynes, age 2 and b. in MS, in the 27 Jul 1870 census of Twp. 7
(Brookhorn P.
O.) Lincoln Co., MS]
26.05--C. Cora A. Tynes,
daughter,
b.
Feb 1870 in MS; d. unk.; bd.
unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
C. C. A. Tynes, age 5 mos.
and b. in MS, in the 27 Jul 1870
census of Twp. 7 (Brookhorn P. O.) Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as Cora A.
Tynes,
age 11, b.
MS(---/---), in the 19 Jun 1880
census of Bogue Chitto Dist., Lincoln Co., MS]
[John
M. Gwin Note:
In the 1870 census are Mr. Phlegm (Flem?) Tynes and his family; he is likely
the
father of Minor Edward Tynes who has by 1870 married our
Frances Gwin.]
[listed as
Phlegm Tynes, 47, MS, in the
5 Aug 1870
census
of Bogue Chitto, Lincoln Co., MS]
25.04--Martin Gwin,
b.
ca.
1840
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Martin Gwin, age 20, b. Tenn, in the 22 Sep 1860 census of
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS]
25.05--Elizabeth Gwin,
b.
ca.
1842
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.;
unk. ch.
[listed
as
Elizabeth
Gwin, age 18, b. Tenn,
in
the
22
Sep
1860
census of Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS]
25.06--James Gwin,
b.
ca.
1843 in TN or MS; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.
unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
James Gwin, age 17, b. Tenn,
in the 22 Sep 1860
census of Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS]
25.07--Margaret A. Gwin,
b.
ca.
1846
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd. unk.; m.
unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as Margaret Gwin, age 14, b.
Tenn, in the 22 Sep 1860
census of Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed as
Margaret A.
Gwin, age 23, b.
MS, in the 5 Aug 1870
census of Bogue Chitto, Lincoln Co., MS]
25.08--William Gwin,
b.
ca.
1849
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m.
unk.;
unk. ch.
[listed
as
William
Gwin, age 11, b. Tenn, in the 22 Sep 1860 census of
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS]
25.09--Virginia Gwin,
b.
ca.
1851
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Virginia
Gwin, age 9, b. Tenn, in the 22 Sep 1860 census of
Monticello,
Lawrence Co., MS]
25.10--Thomas J. Gwin,
b.
ca.
1852
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.; bd. unk.; m.
unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Thomas Gwin, age 8, b. Tenn,
in the 22 Sep 1860
census of Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed as T. J.
Gwin,
age 17, b. MS,
in the 5 Aug 1870
census of Bogue Chitto, Lincoln Co., MS]
25.11--Viola Emily Gwin,
b.
ca.
1852
in
TN
or
MS;
d.
unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Emily Gwin, age 8, b. Tenn,
in the 22 Sep 1860
census of Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed as Viola
E. Gwin,
age 17, b.
MS, in the 5 Aug 1870
census of Bogue Chitto, Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as Viola
E. Gwin,
age 28, b. MS(---/---),
in
the 19 Jun 1880
census of Bogue Chitto
Dist., Lincoln Co., MS]
25.12--John M. Gwin,
b.
ca.
1854
in
TN or MS; d.
unk.; bd. unk.; m. ca. 1882
(m. 18 yrs. in 1900) to Laura
E.
(nee unk., b. Feb 1860 in MS; d. btwn. 1900 and 1910 censuses; bd.
unk. but assumed in Lincoln Co., MS); at least 10 ch. (Laura
reports 9
of 9 lvg. in 1900, and no more appears in 1910)
[listed
as
John Gwin, age 6, b. Tenn,
in the 22 Sep 1860
census of Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed as J. M.
Gwin,
age 16, b. MS,
in the 5 Aug 1870
census of Bogue Chitto, Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as John M.
Gwin,
age 26, b. MS,
in the 5 Aug 1880
census of Beat #1, Bogue Chitto Dist., Lincoln Co., MS, and
living as a
laborer with the family of the widow Martha Williams];
[listed as John
W. Gwin, age 46, b. Jul 1854 in MS(TN/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900 census of
Beat #4,
Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed
as John M. Gwin, age 55 and widowed, b. ca. 1845 in MS(TN/MS),
in the
16 May 1910
census
of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS] [listed
as
Laura E. Gwin, age 40, b.
Feb 1860 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21
Jun 1900
census of
Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS]
26.01--Willie
B.
Gwin, son, b. Oct
1882 in MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Willie B. Gwin, age 17, b.
Oct 1882 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900 census of
Beat #4,
Lincoln Co., MS];
[not
listed as living at home in the 16 May 1910
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS, and assumed md. and lvg.
elsewhere]
26.02--Charlie
Gwin, son, b. Apr
1884 in MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Charlie Gwin, age 16, b. Apr
1884 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS];
[not listed as living at home in the 16 May 1910
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS, and assumed md. and lvg.
elsewhere]
26.03--Bertie
B.
Gwin, daughter,
b. Jun 1886
in MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Bertie B. Gwin, age 13, b.
Jun 1886 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900 census of
Beat #4,
Lincoln Co., MS];
[not listed as
living at
home in the 16
May 1910
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS, and assumed md. and lvg.
elsewhere]
26.04--John
L.
Gwin, son, b. Aug
1888 in MS;
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
John L. Gwin, age 11, b. Aug
1888 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS];
[not listed as
living at
home in the 16
May 1910
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS, and assumed md. and lvg.
elsewhere]
26.05--Homer
Gwin, son, twin,
b. Jul 1890
in MS; d. unk.; bd. unk.;
m.
unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Homer Gwin, age 9, b. Jul
1890 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as Homer Gwin, age 19 and b. in
MS(MS/MS), in the 16 May
1910
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS]
26.06--Grover
C. Gwin, son,
twin, b. Jul
1890 in MS; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. ca.
1915 to Georgia
(nee nk.; b.
ca. 1895 in LA(LA/LA); d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least
one ch.
[listed as Grover C. Gwin, age 9,
b.
Jul 1890 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900
census of Beat #4,
Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed
as Grover
C. Gwin, age 19 and
b. in MS(MS/MS), in the 16
May 1910
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS]; [
listed as Grover C. Gwin, age 29 and
b. in MS(MS/MS), in the 5
Jan 1920
census of Magnolia, Pike Co., MS]
[listed
as
Georgia Gwin, age 25 and
b. in LA(LA/LA), in the 5
Jan 1920
census of Magnolia, Pike Co., MS]
27.01--Stanford
Waller Gwin, son,
b. ca. 1916
in MS(MS/LA); d. unk.;
bd. unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as Stanford Gwin, age 4
and
b. in MS(MS/LA), in the 5
Jan 1920
census of Magnolia, Pike Co., MS];
[listed
as Stanford
Gwin, age 14 and
b. in MS(MS/LA), in the 2 Apr 1930
census of Beat 2, Magnolia, Pike Co., MS]
28.01--Stanford
Payne
Gwin, contributor; m. Charlotte
Virginia
Gentry [PRIVATE]
27.01--Robert S. Gwin,
son,
b.
ca.
Oct
1928
in
MS(MS/LA);
d.
unk.;
bd.
unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as Robert
S. Gwin, age 1yr 7mos and
b. in MS(MS/MS), in the 2 Apr 1930
census of Beat 2, Magnolia, Pike Co., MS]
26.07--Hattie
E.
Gwin, daughter,
b. Dec 1892
in MS; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.
unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Hattie Gwin, age 7, b. Dec
1892 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as Hattie E. Gwin, age 17 and
b. in MS(MS/MS), in the 16
May
1910
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS]
26.08--Myrtle
Gwin, daughter,
b. Jul 1895
in MS; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.
unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Myrtle Gwin, age 4, b. Jul
1895 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as Myrtle Gwin, age 14 and b.
in MS(MS/MS), in the 16
May 1910
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS]
26.09--Ernest
Dewey
Gwin, son, b. Mar
1898 in MS;
d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.
unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Dewey Gwin, age 2, b. Mar
1898 in MS(MS/MS), in the 21 Jun 1900
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS];
[listed as
Earnest D.
Gwin, age 12 and
b. in MS(MS/MS), in the 16
May
1910
census of Beat #4, Lincoln Co., MS]
25.13--Melissa Gwin,
b.
ca.
1855 in TN or MS;
d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.
unk.; unk. ch.
[listed
as
Melissa Gwin, age 5, b.
Tenn, in the 22 Sep 1860
census of Monticello, Lawrence Co., MS];
[listed as M. E.
Gwin,
age 14, b. MS,
in the 5 Aug 1870
census of Bogue Chitto, Lincoln Co., MS]
"I
sleep in Jesus, blessed sleep from which none
ever wakes to weep"
From: Lincoln
County, Its People by Yvonne McGlothin:
"Colonel William Gwin was born in the state of
Tennessee. He moved to
Lawrence County, MS (now Lincoln) when only a
small boy.
He
was first married in the beginning of manhood,
and his first wife soon
died. He was again married Dec. 30, 1830, to
Miss Sarah Sutton. There
were born to them 17 children, 5 boys and 12
girls.
Col. Gwin
was truly a patriotic citizen, taking a deep
interest in all that
pertained to the welfare of his country.
He filled several
offices
during his lifetime. He lost two sons in
the Civil War;, joined
the Mt.
Moriah Baptist Church, and was baptized about 51
years ago."
Also: In
1861 he was elected to the Secession Convention
over the brilliant F.
T. Cooper.
He is a first cousin of Wm. M[cKendree] Gwin,
ex-senator of
California who recently died in New York
City. His father was a
noted
Methodist minister and a favorite of General
Andrew Jackson.
Created by: ~Denise~
Record added: May 24, 2007
Find A Grave Memorial# 19508515
Torrey
Gwin
Hunter's
NOTES: This
information is as accurate as I can make it. There are lots of
unanswered
questions, and my only source for William M. Gwin's 13
children
is the 1860 census.
Stan Gwin
sent me this web address
- we have corresponded a little because I think his William
Gwin
(gen. 1) is my Joseph Gwin's brother. This is the
same
William
whose marriage to Susan Sutton on 12/22/1830 is recorded
in
Bok.
2, Page 70 of the Lawrence County, Mississippi Marriage
Records.
I couldn't find this in your [John
McDonald
Gwin's]
line but maybe I missed it; since William Sutton Gwin is
your
grandfather,
the Suttons must be in there somewhere. I have not
been
able
to go behind Joseph, but I do have documented information from
Joseph
forward
and would love to participate in the web site if you do think the
families
are connected.
[The
following excerpt from Torrey's
e.mail
of 9 Jun 99 is a most interesting addendum!--jmg ]
My attention has only recently turned to a quest for William (the
father--1. above)--for years
we
have
all been trying to find out what happened to Joseph.
The
story
of
that
puzzle
could
fill
three
sheets
of
regular
typing
paper,
single
spaced--in
short,
we
finally
discovered he had been killed
in
the Alamo, but having been in Texas only 7 mos. or
so
before
that unfortunate occurrance, apparently no one knew he had
any
family
to notify. If he had not signed a promissory note in Oct. of
1835
which was included with his administration papers, we might not
ever
have
found him. As it is, the spelling of his last name has
only
recently been corrected on the marker, and his first name is still
wrong
almost everywhere (they have him as James). My husband has
teased
me for years about stopping in every little place in Texas to
inquire
about
Joseph
Gwin.
My advice to the newly
initiated--watch
out! Genealogy
can be addicting! - Torrey
Subject:
Gwin
progress?
Received: 4/26/02 1:00 AM
From: John Gwin,
jmcdgwin@zianet.com
To:
TGHAMA@aol.com
Hi Torrey!
Just stopping in for a minute to say
hi! I hope you and all
yours
are well. Have you been able to find out any more in your
Gwin
line?
It sure looks to me like we're probably related, and someday I
sincerely
hope we'll find out for sure. : -)
I've found out quite a bit about my
family and have redone my
website.
The starting page is now
www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/gwinrichard.htm
Best to you for now--
In Jesus,
John Gwin
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Gwin progress?
Sent: 4/28/20 11:35 AM
Received: 4/26/02 7:30 PM
From: TGHAMA@aol.com
To: john,
jmcdgwin@zianet.com
Hi - Not much forward progress on this
end. Instead I fear that the
reverse might be true. Diane Hester, a lady from Montana, found
some
Louisiana
research which seems to indicate that my Joseph Gwin and Stan's
William
Gwin are not brothers after all. Instead, William McNichols Gwin
is
probably
a brother to her Malcolm Gwin. Still, one nice thing
has
come
of my mystery - I have gotten to "meet" quite a few really nice
Gwins
via
the internet. Keep in touch - Torrey
2007
Correspondence
with
Michael A. Gwinn
From: gwinnma@aol.com
Date: May 14, 2007
To: gwinnmaataoldotcomcommajmcdgwinatzianetdotcom
Cc: tghamaataoldotcomcommaraymoeatcharterdotnetcommamichaeltgwinnatmsndotcom
Subject: Re: Joseph GWIN (father of
Sylvester GWIN
of MS)
On May 14, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Michael A. Gwinn wrote:
John, Torry,
Michael,
& Ray
Hello all, I'm doing fine. You are more than
welcome to
post my suspicions or opinions; please (John) delete
the two previous
emails. I have carbon copied Washington
(GWINN's) and
Torrey GWIN Hunter in an effort to keep them informed
with my
speculations.
------------
Some people indicate this Joseph GWIN to be one
of the
"Defender of the Alamo". I'm not
contesting that, .... but
I have some speculations as to who he could possibly
be. What I'm
suggesting is that I believe the Joseph GWIN, who
appears on the 1830
Lawrence Co., Mississippi Census (father of Civil War
Capt Sylvester
GWIN) is the same Joseph GWINN who
married Rebecca OWENS (1818) and Rebecca MOBLEY (1829)
and is the son
of James "Jr." GWINN and Mary "Polly" FROGGE who
lived in Cumberland Co., KY after 1811. I
believe this to be a
logical presumption.
Here are some facts and thoughts:
1.) Joseph GWINN,
who
lived in Cumberland & Wayne Co., Kentucky, born
11 Mar 1797, VA
(now WV) who married
Rebecca OWENS in 28
Jul 1818, Wayne Co., KY, had at least four children:
Sarah Jane (b.
1819),
William F. (b. 1820),
Joseph L. (b. 1824),
Owen P. (b. 1827).
According to a book
(Historic Sketches
of Walla Walla, Whitman,
Columbia and Garfield Counties - Washington
Territory by FRANK
T. GILBERT, Portland, Oregon, 1882), Joseph L. GWINN
(b. 1824) states,
"His father went to New Orleans to follow his trade as
a carpenter,
when the subject of this sketch was but four years old
(1828)."
(Basically, he abandoned his first wife in 1828.)
a.) Mrs. Rebecca
(OWENS)
GWINN, as the years rolled by and no tidings came from
her absent
husband, settled on a farm given to her by her father
(Reuben OWENS),
raised her children till they married. Her
children convinced her
to move near Unionville, in Putman Co., Missouri ,
around 1845-1846,
where they lived until 1864, then moved to Walla Walla
Co., WA, until
her death in 1867.
2.) A researcher (Charles Peyton) has informed
Beckie
Rawdon (another researcher) in her notes, he claims
that this Joseph
GWINN (b. 1797), in Cumberland & Wayne Co.,
KENTUCKY, was the son
of James "Jr." GWINN (b. 1774) and Mary "Polly" FROGGE
(b. 1775).
(I agree with Charles Peyton on this.)
a.) James "Jr."
GWINN,
was son of James "Sr." GWINN (b.1744) and Nancy
CARLILE (b. 1750),
grandson of Robert GWIN (b.1717/1725) and JeanKINCAID
(b.1720/1724) of
Calf Pasture, Augusta Co. VA. Proven is
that James "Jr."
GWINN's brother Joseph GWINN (b. 1783), married Mary
"Polly"TAYLOR (b.
1786) and their 1st child was named SYLVESTER GWINN
(b.
1805). This makes Joseph (b. 1783) the
uncle of Joseph (b.
1797), andSYLVESTER (b. 1805), a 1st cousin of Joseph
GWINN (b. 1797).
b.) James "Jr." GWINN and Mary "Polly" FROGGE had
at least
9 children, "Jesse Blaine GWIN, published that they
had 12 children,
but I believe that (12) count was a mis-inturpation of
the 1820
Cumberland Co., KY census. Jesse should not have
counted those engaged
in agriculture, but did.
c.) One of James "Jr." GWINN and Mary "Polly"
FROGGE
children, was George (brother of suspected Joseph
GWIN).
George GWINN married Jane DAVIS and their children
were: James M. (ca.
1828), 1-female unknown (ca. 1825/1830), 1-male
unknown (1825/1830,
suspect my Francis MarionGWINN), John M. (b. 1830),
George W. (b. Nov
1832), SYLVESTER L. (b. 1835), Cyrus W. (b. 1837),
William R. (b.
1842), Alfred C. (b. 1845), Martha E. (b. 1847), Mary
A. (b.
1852). (now we have two brothers, each
naming a son
SYLVESTER).
3) Monticello,
Lawrence
Co., Mississippi ... is only 160 miles, due north of
New Orleans,
Louisiana.
4) Lawrence County - Mississippi Marriages
Records,
1826-1900
Name: JOSEPH GWINN Spouse:
REBECCA
MOBLEY Marriage Date: 08 Mar 1829
5) Concerning Richmond GWIN, and the 1830,
Lawrence Co.,
MS census of Joseph GWIN (below), Richmond is recorded
as one of males
age 10-15 years old, which means in 1850 he should've
been 30-35, but
1850 census indicates he's 26 years old (below). I
believe the 1850
census to be in error. Either way, I do not believe
Richmond was a son
of Joseph GWIN, a cousin, nephew, or younger brother.
I do not think he
he was a son of Rebecca MOBLEY.
" If " the 1850 census was correct, .... then
Rebecca
MOBLEY would've been 12-13 years old when she had
Richmond, but I
believe he was slightly older, which means he
definitely would've been
even younger, combined with the fact that they (Joseph
GWINN and
Rebecca MOBLEY) did not marry till 1829.
6) I do not believe the 1830 Lawrence Co.,
Mississippi,
Census is quite true. It indicates that Joseph
GWIN was 20-30,
and I believe him to be slightly older (33 years old),
but since his
mother-in-law was living with them (1830), "I believe,
it was possibly
easier" for them to marry, if everyone thought he was
slightly younger.
7) Most importantly "Sylvester GWIN" indicates
his
father's birth state as "KENTUCKY" on the 1880 Census.
-----------------------------------------------
1830 Census Lawrence, Mississippi; Roll: 71;
Page: 53.
line 14 GWIN, Joseph 2 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 //
0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
line 14 GWIN, Joseph 2m_0&u5, 1m_10&u15,
1m_20&u30, 1f_15&u20, 1f_50&u60.
2m_0&u5 posb. sons Sylvester & Isaiah b.
abt 1825
- 1830
1m_10&u15 posb. Richmond GWIN b. abt 1815 -
1820
1m_20&u30 Head-H Joseph GWIN b. abt 1800 -
1810
<---- XXXX
1f_15&u20 wife Rebecca MOBLEY b. abt 1810 -
1815
1f_50&u60 posb M-n-lw Nancy (COX) MOBLEY b.
abt 1770 -
1780
------------------------------------------------
1840 Census Lawrence, Mississippi; Roll: 216;
Page: 66.
line 31 MOBLEY, Nancy 0 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
// 0 0 0 0
1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
line 31 MOBLEY, Nancy 2m_10&u15,
2m_15&u20,
2m_20&u30, 1f_20&u30, 1f_50&u60.
2m_10&u15 posb. G-son Sylvester & Isiah
GWIN b.
abt 1825 - 1830
2m_15&u20 posb. unknown or Richmond GWIN b.
abt 1820 -
1825
2m_20&u30 posb. unknown or Richmond GWIN b.
abt 1810 -
1820
1f_20&u30 posb. dau Rebecca GWIN b. abt 1810
- 1820
<----- XXXX
1f_50&u60 Head-H Nancy MOBLEY b. abt 1780 -
1790
------------------------------------------------
1850 Census Lawrence, Mississippi; Roll:
M432_375; Page:
403; Image: 361.
80 80 Mobly, Thomas F. M w 32 Clerk 3000 MS
--- Jane F w 1/2 ME
Gwin, Sylvester M w 18 Student MS
<------
XXXX (staying with Uncle / cousin)
------------------------------------------------
1850 Census Lawrence, Mississippi; Roll:
M432_375; Page:
398; Image: 351.
14 14 Sutton, Solomon Jr M w 37 Farmer GA
---- Rebecca F w 38 400
TN
<------
XXXX
Gwin, Isaih M w 20 Farmer MS
---- Richmond M w 26 MS ( I believe
Richmond is
older )
15 15 Mobly, Clement M w 29 Farmer 800 MS
---- Thornton M w 27 Farmer MS
------------------------------------------------
1860 Census Lawrence, MS; Post Office: Monticello
Roll:
M653_584; Page: 0; Image: 408.
657 658 Guin, S. M w 29 Circuit Clerk 6000
MS
<------ XXXX
--- Isiah M w 29 Farmer MS
------------------------------------------------
1870 Census Monticello, Lawrence, MS; Roll:
M593_735;
Page: 174; Image: 348.
17 17 Gwin, Silvester M w 39 Merchant 3000
MS <------ XXXX
--- Sarah E. F w 38 12000 5000 MS
--- Lucien C. M w 04 MS
--- Edgar C. M w 02 MS
--- Lawrence D. M w 01 MS
--- A sarah (Isiah) M w 39 Grocer 500 MS
Butler, Wm. C. M w 34 Clerk in store 650 MS
------------------------------------------------
1880 Liberty Grove, Hinds, MS; Roll: T9_648;
Film:
1254648; Pg: 108.2000; ED: 5; Image: 0585.
372 392 Gwin, S. M w 47 self Auditor MS KY
MS <------ XXXX
--- Lucien C. M w 14 son MS MS MS
--- Edgar C. M w 13 son MS MS MS
--- Lawrence D. M w 11 son MS MS MS
--- Samuel L. M w 08 son MS MS MS
Clay, Daniel M mu 35 servant MS
Morton, Mary F mu 23 servant MS
------------------------------------------------
Respectfully,
Michael A. Gwinn gwinnmaataoldotcom
Sheila Gwin
October
24, 2010
Subject: gwin in natchez
Lucien, my name is Sheila Gwin, and I live in Laurel.
I saw your photo
in the 2010 gala for LLT. I did not attend, although I
was a longtime
member and in the cast of two productions in 1970.
Was not aware there was another Gwin here -- I know of
an attorney,
Lucien Gwin, in Natchez. Are you prehaps related to
those Gwins?
My cousin, John Gwin, has a family tree posted on the
internet. My
family line is at
www.gwingenealogy.net/GENEALOGY/SURNAMES/Gwin/GwinJamesBassettSr.htm.
My father is Dr. J. V. Gwin -- far left in the photo
of the link. It
would be interesting to see if you fall into one of
these lines.
But if not, we're still all Gwins.
Love to hear from you.
Sheila A. Gwin
Lucien
Gwin
October 18
Hi,
I am related to the
Natchez
Gwins; my dad and grandfather are both attorneys
there. I am the
fourth. I have never met any other Gwins, so this is
interesting to me.
I looked at your family line, but I didn't recognize
any names,
although I did do it on my phone and wasn't able to
see any of the
children's names. I know there is a book on my
family at one of my
relatives in Natchez that might tell us if we were
related. My dad
would know a lot more about it than I would though.
Well, it was nice
to hear from you; hope to again soon.
torreyhunter
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