.
John Ray Guinn, Sr.

and
Vena Lee Howorth
.

Revised 20 May 2004
Page Updated 9 May 2011


The reformatting of the name font and census data for this page has been completed. --John M. Gwin, Aug 2011

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--John Gwin



An Outline of the Known Family So Far


John Ray Guinn was born to John W Gwin and Mary Miller in 1872 in Lampasas County. He married Vena 26 Oct 1896 and passed away 23 Oct 1935 in Temple, TX.
Vena Lee Howorth Guinn was born to [unknown first name] and Rosa Howorth abt 1885. She passed away 7 Apr 1968 in Temple, TX.
Children of John Ray and Vena:
John Ray Guinn DOB: 08 Sept 1900 in Lampassas County TX DOD: 30 April 1956 in Stephenville TX. John Ray Married Theora Willie Bartlett in 1921. They had a son, John Anthony (1922-1951) and possibly more children. We didn't really keep in touch.
Ruthie Lucille Guinn Baskin DOB: 03 Feb 1903 in Temple, TX DOD: 16 March 1999 in Temple, TX. She married D.Q. "Jack" Baskin (DOB: 21 May 1900 in Canton, TX DOD: 9 Dec 1988 in Temple, TX) on 4 Sept 1926. They had no children. Jack has a street named after him off Avenue H, next to the Santa Fe Hospital in Temple. He was a long time railroad employee. Lucille was a secretary for Shirley Richards Insurance.
Nona Mae Guinn Sherman DOB: 06 Feb 1913 in Temple, TX DOD: 24 June 1989 in Temple, TX. She married John Francis Sherman (DOD: 1970) and they had one child: Lucille Sherman Harris (born 1946). Nona Mae was a nurse, and Johnnie worked for the railroad.
(My grandmother) Leota Guinn Hinds DOB: 27 Aug 1915 in Temple, TX DOD: 20 Jan 2001 in Temple, TX. She was married to James Clara Hinds (DOB: 21 Apr 1898 in Carl Junction Missouri DOD: 19 May 1984 in Temple, Texas). They had one child, my mother Patriaiann Hinds Coufal (born 1946). J.C. was a draftsman and was involved in the design and planning of oil refineries in the United States and South America.
John Ray and Vena also had other children who passed away when they were young. We always heard them referred to as "Little Brother" and "Little Sister." At least one is buried in Hillcrest Cemetery in Temple.


23.00--J. Guinn, b. prob. ca. 1797; d. aft. 1820 and bef. 1860; bd. unk.; m. unk. date/place to Nancy (nee unk.; b. ca. 1805 in SC; d. aft. 1870 census, prob. in Lampasas, TX)
[listed as J. Gwinn, age 53 and b. in SC, in the 19 Oct 1850 census of Res./Fam. 890, Dist. 42, Henry Co., GA]

[listed as N. Gwinn, age 47 and b. in SC, in the 19 Oct 1850 census of Res./Fam. 890, Dist. 42, Henry Co., GA]
[listed as Nancey Guinn, age 55 and b. in SC, in the 16 Jul 1860 census of Res./Fam. 91, Lampasas P. O., Lampasas, Co., TX, and lvg. w/the fam. of her widowed son, D. T. Guinn]
[listed as Nancy Guin, age 66 and b. in SC, in the 1870 census of Lampasas, TX, and lvg. with her granddau. and gs-i-l, Mr./Mrs. Alvin (Nannie Guinn) Anderson]
 
24.01--D. T. Guinn, (son) b. ca. 1820 in SC; d. btw. 1868 and 1870; bd. unk.; m. M. A. (nee unk.; b. ca. 1817 in GA; d. bef. 1860; bd. unk.); at least 3 ch.
[listed as D. T. Gwinn, age 30 and b. in SC, in the 19 Oct 1850 census of Res./Fam. 1029, Dist. 42, Henry Co., GA]
[listed as D. T. Guinn, age 40 and b. in SC, in the 16 Jul 1860 census of Res./Fam. 30, Lampasas P. O., Lampasas, Co., TX]

[listed as M. A. Gwinn, age 33 and b. in GA, in the 19 Oct 1850 census of Res./Fam. 1029, Dist. 42, Henry Co., GA]

25.01--Sarah Guinn, b. ca. 1846 in GA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as S. A. A. Gwinn, age 4 and b. in GA, in the 19 Oct 1850 census of Res./Fam. 1029, Dist. 42, Henry Co., GA]
[listed as Sarah Guinn, age 14 and b. in GA, in the 16 Jul 1860 census of Res./Fam. 30, Lampasas P. O., Lampasas, Co., TX]
25.02--Davis W. F. Guinn, b. ca. 1847 in GA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as D.W. Gwinn, age 3 and b. in GA, in the 19 Oct 1850 census of Res./Fam. 1029, Dist. 42, Henry Co., GA]
[listed as Sarah Guinn, age 13 and b. in GA, in the 16 Jul 1860 census of Res./Fam. 30, Lampasas P. O., Lampasas, Co., TX]

25.03--Nancy S./C. Guinn, b. ca. 1850 in GA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as N. C. Gwinn, age 1 and b. in GA, in the 19 Oct 1850 census of Res./Fam. 1029, Dist. 42, Henry Co., GA]
[listed as Nancey S. Guinn, age 10 and b. in GA, in the 16 Jul 1860 census of Res./Fam. 30, Lampasas P. O., Lampasas, Co., TX]

24.02--D. Guinn, (possible son) b. ca. 1824 in SC; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as D. Gwinn, age 26 and b. in SC, in the 19 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 42, Henry Co., GA]

Name: Mary Guin
Birth Year: abt 1834
Age: 36
POB: Tennessee
Home in
1870:
Res/Fam #8, Pct. 1,
Lampasas, TX
Mary Miller Guinn


Household:


Our John who will marry  Vena Howorth




Name Age/POB
Mary Guin 36/TN
Nannie Guin 13/TX
Sarah Guin 7/TX
Harvey Guin 5/TX
John Guin 2/TX
Thomas Guin 18/TX
Thomas Craft 18/MS
Mary Guin 10/TX
24.03--John W. Guinn, (son) b. ca. 1826 in SC; d. btw. 1860 and 1870; bd. unk. but prob. in Lampasas, TX; m. Mary Miller (b. ca. 1834 in TN; d. aft. 1880 census; bd. unk.); Mary m2. Edward Z. Brown, b. 1817 in NY/NY/NY; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least five ch.
[listed as J. W. Guinn, age 30 and b. in SC, in the 16 Jul 1860 census of Lampasas P. O., Lampasas, Co., TX]

[listed as Mary Guinn, age 30 and b. in SC, in the 16 Jul 1860 census of Lampasas P. O., Lampasas, Co., TX]

25.01--Florentine Guinn, (dau.) b. ca. 1853 in GA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Lorenzo D. Nichols (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

25.02--Adda Guinn, (dau.) b. ca. 1855 in TX; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.03--Nancy "Nannie" Guinn, (dau.) b. ca. 1857 in TX; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.04--Mary Guinn, (dau.) b. ca. 1859 in TX; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.05
--John Ray Guinn (Sr.), b. Aug 1869, according to the 1900 census, but b. 18 Aug 1872, according to descendant Cynnamon Hines--in Lampassas Co., TX; d. 23 Oct 1935 in Temple, TX; bd. in Sect. F,
Hillcrest Cem., Temple, Bell Co., TX--Find A Grave Memorial# 31303969; m. 23 Oct 1896 to Vena Lee "Ma Guinn" Howorth (d/o Mr. Howorth and Rosa [nee unk., b. IN ca. 1861 to parents from Germany; d. betw. 1920 and 1930; bd. unk.]; d. 7 Apr 1968 in Temple, TX; bd. in Sect. F, Hillcrest Cem., Temple, Bell Co., TX--Find A Grave Memorial# 22858110); at least four ch.
[listed as John Guin, age 2 and b. in TX, in the 1870 census of Lampasas, TX]
[listed as John R. Gwinn, age 12 and b. in TX/TX/TX, in the 2 Jun 1880 census of Lampasas, Lampasas Co., TX]
[listed as John R. Gwin, age 30 and b. Aug 1869 in TX/TX/TX, in the 2 Jun 1900 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as John R. Gwyn, age 38 and b. TX/MS/MS, in the 25 Apr 1910 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as John R. Gwinn, age 45 and b. TX/TX/TX, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as John R. Guinn, bookkeeper for a plumbing co., age 54 and b. TX/TX/TX, in the 12 Apr 1930 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]

[listed as Vena L. Gwin, age 16 and b. Aug 1883 in TX/England/MO, in the 2 Jun 1900 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as Vena I. Gwyn, age 21 and b. TX/England/IN, in the 25 Apr 1910 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as Vena Gwinn, age 35 and b. TX/England/IN, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as Vena L. Guinn, age 50 and b. TX/England/MO, in the 12 Apr 1930 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]


Vena Lee Howorth Guinn
 (above, mother of John Ray Guinn, Jr.)
1881
7 Apr 1968
Hillcrest Cem.
Temple
Bell Co., TX

Photo posted to
Findagrave.com
Memorial# 22858110
by Cynnamon Hines



from the Temple Daily Telegram, 1968

"Mrs. John Guinn, 87, of 2613 Brooklawn Drive, died at her home Sunday morning after a long illness.
Funeral will be at 2 p.m. Monday at the Harper-Talasek Funeral Home Chapel, the Rev. Fred Bomar officiating. Burial will be in Hillcrest Cemetery. Mrs. Guinn was born in Belton* and had made her home in Temple most of her life. She was the former Miss Vena Lee Howorth. She married John R. Guinn Oct. 23, 1896. Mr. Guinn was an early law enforcement officer and Temple chief of police. [Cynnamon Hines Note: While Mr. Guinn did work for the Temple Police Department, I am unsure that he was ever chief.]  He died in 1935. Mrs. Guinn was a member of the Catholic Church.
Surviving are three daughters, Mrs. D. Q. (Lucille) Baskin of Temple, Mrs. John F. (Nona Mae) Sherman of Fort Worth, and Mrs. J. C. (Leota) Hinds of Gayaqial Equador; four grandchildren, eight great-grandchildren and six great-great-grandchildren.
Pallbearers will be Shirley Richards, Glenn Richards, Red Kelley, Ray Martin, Bob Cooper, and Leo Davis."


*Vena was born approx. 1881. Her parents were J. Howorth (born in Missouri) and Rosa Howorth (born in Indiana in 1858). 
 
Family links: 
 Spouse:
  John Ray Guinn (1872 - 1935)
 
Created by: Cynnamon Hines
Record added: Nov 12, 2007
Find A Grave Memorial# 22858110





26.01--John Ray Guinn, (Jr.)
(below, son of John Ray and Vena Lee Guinn)
 8 Sep 1900
30 Apr 1956
Athens Cem.
Athens
Henderson Co., TX

Photo posted to
Findagrave.com
Memorial# 19837681

by Suzie at
www.fluttergirl.com

copied here with her permission
26.01--John Ray Guinn, (Jr.), b. 8 Sep 1900 in Belton, Bell Co., TX; d. 30 Apr 1956 in Stephenville, Erath Co., TX; bd. 1956 Athens Cemetery, Athens, Henderson Co., TX--Find A Grave Memorial# 19837681; m. in Salado, Bell Co., TX, on 10 Mar 1921 to Theora Bartlett (d/o  unk.; b. unk. date in Athens, Henderson Co., TX; d. unk. date in Stephenville, Erath Co., TX; bd. unk. date/place); at least two ch. [Ann Adamson Note: John Ray Guinn was a Texas Ranger and later a Deputy Marshall of Bell County.  He was fire chief of Temple.  I have a Deputy Marshall badge that was his.]
[listed as John Ray Gwyn, age 9 and b. TX/TX/TX, in the 25 Apr 1910 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as John Ray Gwinn, age 19 and b.  TX/TX/TX, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]

27.01--John Anthony Guinn, b. 2 Jul 1922; died 3 Jul 1951 at age 29; bd. Athens Cem., Athens, Henderson Co., TX; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.00--Ms. Guinn, [PRIVATE]

27.00--Mr. Guinn, [PRIVATE]

28.00--Ann Guinn, [PRIVATE]; m. Bill Adamson [PRIVATE]

26.02--Ruth Lucille Guinn, b. 3 Feb 1903, Bell Co., TX; d. 16 Mar 1999 in Temple, Bell Co., TX; bd. Bellwood Mem. Pk., Temple, Bell Co., TX--Find A Grave Memorial# 22859008; m. 4 Sep 1926 in Temple, TX, to D. Q. "Jack" Baskin (b. 21 May 1900 in Edgewood, Van Zandt Co., TX; d. 9 Dec 1988 in Temple, Bell Co., TX; bd. Bellwood Mem. Pk., Temple, Bell Co., TX--Find A Grave Memorial# 22879673); Ruth Guinn's and D. Q. Baskin's vital data via grandniece Cynnamon Hinds, 28.00 below; unk. ch.
[listed as Ruth L. Gwyn, age 7 and b. TX/TX/TX, in the 25 Apr 1910 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as Lucille Gwinn, age 16 and b. 
TX/TX/TX, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]

[original data on Lucille and D. Q. Baskin taken from the 1968 obit. listed at Findagrave.com]


Jack "D.Q." Baskin was born on May 21, 1900, at 6:00 p.m. in Edgewood, Texas. He graduated from Edgewood High School in 1921 and married Ruth Lucille Guinn in Temple, Texas, on September 4, 1926. He worked for the railroad and has a street in Temple named in his honor: Jack Baskin Street.

Jack's parents were Needham George Baskin, a farmer, who was born approx. 1867 in Alabama, and Johnnie Tommie Woodward Baskin, who was born approx. 1865 in Alabama. At the time of Jack's birth, Needham and Johnnie Tommie had seven children, two living.

Temple Daily Telegram: "D.Q. (Jack) Baskin, 88, of 2413 Brooklawn Drive, Temple, died in a Temple hospital [Scott & White] Friday.
Services will be 11 a.m. Monday at Harper-Talasek Funeral Home of Temple with the Rev. Ed Stewart and the Rev. Wayne Pick officiating.
Burial will be in Bellwood Memorial Park of Temple.
Mr. Baskin was born in Edgewood and lived in Temple for the past 65 years. He was employed by the Santa Fe Railroad for 45 years and retired 14 years ago as head of the car department. He was a lifetime member of the Temple Lions Club and a member of The First Baptist Church.
Survivors are his wife, Lucille Guinn Baskin of Temple and a brother, Sam Baskin of Carlsbad, N.M..
Memorials may be sent to the Temple Railroad Museum, 710 Jack Baskin Street, Temple, Texas or the Lions Camp, P.O. Box 247, Kerrville, Texas 78029-0247."




26.03--Nona Mae Guinn, b. unk. prob. in Temple, Bell Co., TX; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. John F. Sherman (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
[original data taken from the 1968 obit. listed at Findagrave.com]
[listed as Nona mae Gwinn, age 6 and b. 
TX/TX/TX, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as Nona M. Guinn, age 16 and b.
TX/TX/TX, in the 12 Apr 1930 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]

26.04--Leota Guinn, b. ca. 1916, prob. in Temple, Bell Co., TX; d. unk.; bd. unk.; lived in Gayaqial, Ecuador, at the time of her mother's death (fr. obit.); m. J. C. Hinds (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least one ch.
[original data taken from the 1968 obit. listed at Findagrave.com]
[listed as Leota Gwinn, age 4 and b.  TX/TX/TX, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]
[listed as Leota Guinn, age 14 and b. TX/TX/TX, in the 12 Apr 1930 census of Temple, Bell Co., TX]

27.00--Mr. Hinds, [PRIVATE]

28.00--Cynnamon Hinds, CONTRIBUTOR   [PRIVATE]
24.04--E. Guinn, (dau.) b. ca. 1830 in SC; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.unk.; unk. ch.

24.05--G. C. Guinn, (dau.) b. ca. 1832 in SC; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.unk.; unk. ch.

24.06--M. J. Guinn, (dau.) b. ca. 1834 in SC; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.unk.; unk. ch.


John Ray Guinn was born to John W Gwin and Mary Miller in 1872 in Lampassas County. He married Vena 26 Oct 1896 and passed away 23 Oct 1935 in Temple, TX.
Vena Lee Howorth Guinn was born to [unknown first name] and Rosa Howorth abt 1885. She passed away 7 Apr 1968 in Temple, TX.
Children of John Ray and Vena:
John Ray Guinn DOB: 08 Sept 1900 in Lampassas County TX DOD: 30 April 1956 in Stephenville TX. John Ray Married Theora Willie Bartlett in 1921. They had a son, John Anthony (1922-1951) and possibly more children. We didn't really keep in touch.
Ruthie Lucille Guinn Baskin DOB: 03 Feb 1903 in Temple, TX DOD: 16 March 1999 in Temple, TX. She married D.Q. "Jack" Baskin (DOB: 21 May 1900 in Canton, TX DOD: 9 Dec 1988 in Temple, TX) on 4 Sept 1926. They had no children. Jack has a street named after him off Avenue H, next to the Santa Fe Hospital in Temple. He was a long time railroad employee. Lucille was a secretary for Shirley Richards Insurance.
Nona Mae Guinn Sherman DOB: 06 Feb 1913 in Temple, TX DOD: 24 June 1989 in Temple, TX. She married John Francis Sherman (DOD: 1970) and they had one child: Lucille Sherman Harris (born 1946). Nona Mae was a nurse, and Johnnie worked for the railroad.
(My grandmother) Leota Guinn Hinds DOB: 27 Aug 1915 in Temple, TX DOD: 20 Jan 2001 in Temple, TX. She was married to James Clara Hinds (DOB: 21 Apr 1898 in Carl Junction Missouri DOD: 19 May 1984 in Temple, Texas). They had one child, my mother Patriaiann Hinds Coufal (born 1946). J.C. was a draftsman and was involved in the design and planning of oil refineries in the United States and South America.
John Ray and Vena also had other children who passed away when they were young. We always heard them referred to as "Little Brother" and "Little Sister." At least one is buried in Hillcrest Cemetery in Temple.



Some Pertinent Census Data

From the 25 Apr 1910 Census of Temple, Bell Co., TX
Address/
Res/Fam
Name
R2HoH
Race/
Sex
Age
MarrStat/
Yrs Md
#Ch
Bn/Lvg
POB
S/F/M
Occupation
John M. Gwin Comments
1315/16/18
John R. Gwyn
head
wm
38
m1/10

TX/MS/MS
Dept Marshall
This is definitely Ann Guinn Adamson's John R. Guinn, Deputy Marshall of Bell County and all!

Vena I. (sic)
wife
wf
21 (sic!)
m1/10
3/2
TX/England/IN

This is who Ann Guinn Adamson's grandfather called LenaLee, of course.  No kidding--her age is listed as 21, and she's been md. 10 years!  If this is true, do the math to see her age at her marriage.  However, it does conflict with the 1900 census, which means this enumerator most likely made an error.

John Ray
son
wm
9
s

TX/TX/TX



Ruth L
daughter
wf
7
s

TX/TX/TX


Rosa Howorth
mother
w
49
wd/30

IN/Germany/Germany




Name: J Gwinn
Age: 53
YOB: abt 1797
POB: SC
Home in
1850 :
Dist. 42,
Henry, GA
Fam#: 890
House-
hold:
Name Age
J Gwinn 53
N Gwinn 47
E Gwinn 20
G C Gwinn 18
M J Gwinn 16
W Cox 23
Name: D T Gwinn
Age: 30
YOB: abt 1820
POB: SC
Home in
1850:
Dist 42,
Henry, GA
Fam #: 1029
House-
hold:
Name Age
D T Gwinn 30
M A Gwinn 33
S A A Gwinn 4
D W Gwinn 3
N C Gwinn 1
R Carroll 75
Name: D Gwinn
Age: 26
YOB: abt 1824
POB: SC
Home in 1850: Dist. 42,
Henry, GA
Fam#: 984
Household:
Name Age
D Gwinn 26

Name: J W Guinn
Age: 30
YOB: abt 1830
POB: SC
Home in
1860
:
LampasasTX
P. O.: Lampasas
Occ.
Stockraising
House-
hold:
Name Age/POB
J W Guinn 30/SC
Mary Guinn 26/TN
Florentine Guinn 7/GA
Adda Guinn 5/TX
Nancy Guinn 3/TX
Mary Guinn 1/TX
Name: D T Guinn
Age: 40
YOB: abt 1820
POB: SC
Home in
1860:
Lampasas,
Texas
P. O.: Lampasas
Occ:
farmer
House-
hold:
Name Age/POB
D T Guinn 40/SC
Sarah Guinn 14/GA
Davis W F Guinn 13/GA
Nancey S Guinn 10/GA
Nancey Guinn 55/SC
Name: Mary Guin
Birth Year: abt 1834
Age: 36
POB: Tennessee
Home in
1870:
Res/Fam #8, Pct. 1,
Lampasas, TX
Mary Miller Guinn


Household:


Our John who will marry  Vena Howorth




Name Age/POB
Mary Guin 36/TN
Nannie Guin 13/TX
Sarah Guin 7/TX
Harvey Guin 5/TX
John Guin 2/TX
Thomas Guin 18/TX
Thomas Craft 18/MS
Mary Guin 10/TX
Name: Florentine Nichols
YOB: abt 1853
Age: 17
POB: Georgia
Home in
1870:
Res/Fam #9, Pct. 1,
 Lampasas, TX
Household Members:
Name Age/POB
Lorenzo D Nichols, stock raiser
25/MO
Florentine Nichols 17/GA
Jacob D Nichols 0/12 (b. Aug)/ TX
Name: Nannie Anderson
YOB: abt 1852
Age: 18
POB: Texas
Home in
1870:
Res/Fam #7, Pct. 1,
 Lampasas, TX
Household:
Name Age/POB
Alvin Anderson, County Clerk
23/TX
Nannie Anderson 18/TX
Polley Anderson 3/12 (b. Feb)/TX
Nancy Guin 66/SC
Name: Florina W. Nichols
Home in
1880:
East Lampasas,
Lampasas, Texas
Age: 26
YOB: abt 1854
POB: Georgia
R2HOH: Wife
Spouse: Lorenzo D. Nichols
FPOB: Georgia
MPOB: Mississippi
Household
Members:
Name Age
Lorenzo D. Nichols 35
Florina W. Nichols 26
Ada L. Nichols 8
Amanda M. Nichols 7
Oscar Nichols 4
Albino Nichols 2
Joseph Portis,
     widowed boarder
88
Name: Nannie C. Anderson
Home in
1880:
Lampasas,
Lampasas
, Texas
Age: 26
YOB: abt 1854
POB: Texas
R2HOH: Wife
Spouse: Alven P. Anderson
FPOB: Alabama
MPOB: Georgia
Household
Members:
Name Age
Alven P. Anderson 33
Hannie C. Anderson 26
Mary J. Anderson 10
Lucettia Anderson 9
William F. Duellen,
nephew
10
Amanda A. Duellen 8
Name: Harvey Gwenn
Home in
1880:
Lampasas,
Lampasas
, TX
Age: 14
YOB: abt 1866
POB: Texas
R2HOH: SSon
FPOB: Georgia
MPOB: Tennessee

Mary Miller Guinn Brown

House-
hold:


Our John who will marry  Vena Howorth

Name Age
Edward Brown 63
Mary Brown 46
Mariette Gwenn 24
Sarah Gwenn 16
Harvey Gwenn 14
John R. Gwenn 12
Thomas Mc Knight 21
Thomas Hendrickson 21
Name: Florence Nichols
Home in
1900:
Mineral Wells,
Palo Pinto, TX
Age: 47
DOB: Feb 1853
POB: Georgia
R2HOH: Wife
FPOB: Georgia
MPOB: Mississippi
Ch. Lvg./Bn.
6/6
Spouse: L D Nichols
YOM: 1879
MarStat: Married
Yrs. Md.: 21
House-
hold:
Name Age
L D Nichols 55
Florence Nichols 47
Oscar Nichols 23
Bina Nichols 20
Edna Nichols 16
Ina Nichols 10
Henry Mount 24




[JMG Note:  In my analysis of the above census data, D. T. Guinn and his brother, John W. Guinn, were b. in SC to Nancey Guinn, when Nancey was 15 and 25 years old, respectively.  Between 1846 and 1853, all had moved to GA where Florentine and all three of D. T.'s kids were born.  By 1855, J. W. (and probably all) had moved to Lampasas.  I did a search of everyone with the given name "Florentine" in Lampasas Co., TX. in 1870, and only Mrs. Nichols was found, she also being the right age and POB to be J. W.'s Florentine; further, she is living next door to her mother Mary and sister Nannie Anderson (with the later of whom Nancy Guinn--spelled here Guin--is now living), so I'm certain this is she.  By 1880, Jacob Nichols has died.]




Communication:

On Monday, May 17, 2004, at 09:03 AM, Bill and Ann Adamson wrote:
Interesting that you sent something posted by a Lena West. Maybe a family name passed on.
In Christ,
Ann
Bill & Ann Adamson
wadomain@earthlink.net
 

On Sunday, May 16, 2004, at 07:49 PM, Bill and Ann Adamson wrote:

Hi John Gwin,
I'm just starting this Genealogy on my grandfather John Ray Guinn (1900-1956) married Theora Bartlett in Salado, Bell Co., TX, 10 Mar 1921. His father was John Guinn. My father is 77 yrs. and has a sister, but they don't know much about any names.  Daddy thinks his grandmother's name was Lena.  Is there any chance that you might know about this John Guinn?   I'm not sure where to start.
Thanks,
Ann
Bill & Ann Adamson
wadomain at earthlink dot net

1.  No, I've not run into either this John Guinn or his son John Ray yet, but that doesn't mean we're not related.

3.  ............I did a search of it for Bartlett and got 46 matches but haven't looked at any of them yet.

4.  ............Then I jumped to the Bell County Forum (still in Genforum) and looked--here's an interesting item I found there when I searched for "Bartlett":

William J. King 1860-1941 Bartlett Cem.
Posted by: Lena West (ID *****4510) Date: April 26, 2004 at 17:35:12
I am seeking any info on the family of William J. King and his wife Narcissis who are buried in the Bartlett Cemetery. I understandthat Bartlett is in Bell Co., but the cemetery is just across the county line in Williamson Co. I think William might be the son of my great grandfather John Wesley King, who lived in the Florence area in the 1850's.
5.  ............Ann, if I were you, I think I'd post a query about your John and John Ray Guinn on either or both of these forums.

6.  Next I went to GOOGLE.com and searched for ["bell county" texas guinn] and found the following two entries--Henry could be a cousin or a brother:

Name: Henry GUINN
Age: 55
Date Entering Home: May 15, 1925
From or Near What Place: Sparta, Texas
Relative or Friends: Ros HENDERSON-Nolanville
Sam HENDERSON-Bland, Tex, Chas ALTUM-Belton, John DYKES & WILLWEST-Sparta
Left the Home: April 1, 1926
Remarks: returned again Feb 1st 1927
Original Record book page #: 11

Name: Becky GUINN
Age: 55
Date Entering Home: May 15, 1925
From or Near What Place: wife of Henry GUINN
Relative or Friends: Ros HENDERSON-Nolanville, Sam HENDERSON-Bland,Tex, Chas ALTUM-Belton, John DYKES & Will WEST-Sparta
Original Record book page #: 11

7. Next I found this obituary from the Temple Daily Telegram in Bell Co., TX, located at:
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/bell/obits/templedailytelegram/1999/oct99.txt

Friday, October 15, 1999-- GUINN, Charles E., 85, Belton, 11a.m., First United Methodist Church, Belton. Scanio-Harper Funeral Home,Temple, in charge.



Below is a copy of the elder John Ray Guinn's death certificate where it states that his wife, Vena, reported that his father's name was J. R. Guinn but that she didn't know his place of birth or his mother's name.  She also reports that they moved to Temple from another place in about 1897 (38 years before).


 








Here is Ancestry.com's summary of  a John R. Gwenn's family in the 1880 census of Lampasas, Texas. 

Whether this is our John Ray Guinn or not is anybody's guess right now, but
if it is he, then his dad must've died and his mom remarried Mr. Brown. 

This could be why Vena didn't know his mother's name when she was answering questions for his death certificate.
 
I've looked for them without success in 1870.


Name: John R. Gwenn
Home in
1880:
Lampasas,
Lampasas Co., TX
Age: 12
YOB: abt 1868
POB: Texas
R2HOH: StepSon
FPOB: Georgia
MPOB: Tennessee
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Brown 63
Mary Brown 46
Mariette Gwenn 24
Sarah Gwenn 16
Harvey Gwenn 14
John R. Gwenn 12
Thomas Mc Knight 21
Thomas Hendrickson 21
 





From: Cynnamon Hines cdcoufalatyahoodotcom
Date: May 6, 2011
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com, wadomainatearthlinkdotnet
Subject: John R. Guinn, Vena Lee Howorth Guinn Website

Good Afternoon,
I came across your website for the Guinn family and would like to offer the information I have about the Guinn family. I am the granddaughter of Leota Guinn Hinds (daughter of John Ray and Vena Guinn).

John Ray Guinn was born to John W Gwin and Mary Miller in 1872 in Lampassas County. He married Vena 26 Oct 1896 and passed away 23 Oct 1935 in Temple, TX.
Vena Lee Howorth Guinn was born to [unknown first name] and Rosa Howorth abt 1885. She passed away 7 Apr 1968 in Temple, TX.
Children of John Ray and Vena:
John Ray Guinn DOB: 08 Sept 1900 in Lampassas County TX DOD: 30 April 1956 in Stephenville TX. John Ray Married Theora Willie Bartlett in 1921. They had a son, John Anthony (1922-1951) and possibly more children. We didn't really keep in touch.
Ruthie Lucille Guinn Baskin DOB: 03 Feb 1903 in Temple, TX DOD: 16 March 1999 in Temple, TX. She married D.Q. "Jack" Baskin (DOB: 21 May 1900 in Canton, TX DOD: 9 Dec 1988 in Temple, TX) on 4 Sept 1926. They had no children. Jack has a street named after him off Avenue H, next to the Santa Fe Hospital in Temple. He was a long time railroad employee. Lucille was a secretary for Shirley Richards Insurance.
Nona Mae Guinn Sherman DOB: 06 Feb 1913 in Temple, TX DOD: 24 June 1989 in Temple, TX. She married John Francis Sherman (DOD: 1970) and they had one child: Lucille Sherman Harris (born 1946). Nona Mae was a nurse, and Johnnie worked for the railroad.
(My grandmother) Leota Guinn Hinds DOB: 27 Aug 1915 in Temple, TX DOD: 20 Jan 2001 in Temple, TX. She was married to James Clara Hinds (DOB: 21 Apr 1898 in Carl Junction Missouri DOD: 19 May 1984 in Temple, Texas). They had one child, my mother Patriaiann Hinds Coufal (born 1946). J.C. was a draftsman and was involved in the design and planning of oil refineries in the United States and South America.
John Ray and Vena also had other children who passed away when they were young. We always heard them referred to as "Little Brother" and "Little Sister." At least one is buried in Hillcrest Cemetery in Temple.

I have photographs of everyone saved to my family tree on Ancestry.com along with more information and stories. Do you have access to ancestry.com?

And here's a link to all my family data posted on Findagrave.com: 
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSmcid=46951731&

Thank you,
Cynnamon Hines









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Guinn, D. T. (son) 24.01 GA TX






Guinn, E. (dau) 24.02? GA







Guinn, G. C. (dau) 24.03? GA







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Guinn, Nancy
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